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beevul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 04:48 PM
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A thread to refer to when some one throw out "paranoia".
"In fact, the assault weapons ban will have no significant effect either on the crime rate or on personal security. Nonetheless, it is a good idea . . . . Its only real justification is not to reduce crime but to desensitize the public to the regulation of weapons in preparation for their ultimate confiscation." Charles Krauthammer

We're going to have to take one step at a time, and the first step is necessarily -- given the political realities -- going to be very modest. . . . e'll have to start working again to strengthen that law, and then again to strengthen the next law, and maybe again and again. Right now, though, we'd be satisfied not with half a loaf but with a slice. Our ultimate goal -- total control of handguns in the United States -- is going to take time. . . . The first problem is to slow down the number of handguns being produced and sold in this country. The second problem is to get handguns registered. The final problem is to make possession of all handguns and all handgun ammunition-except for the military, police, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs, and licensed gun collectors-totally illegal.

Pete Shields, founder of Handgun Control, Inc. which is now the brady campaign

"Brady Bill is "the minimum step" that Congress should take to control handguns. "We need much stricter gun control, and eventually we should bar the ownership of handguns except in a few cases,"

Rep. William L. Clay D-St. Louis, Mo

I think you have to do it a step at a time and I think that is what the NRA is most concerned about, is that it will happen one very small step at a time, so that by the time people have "woken up" to what's happened, it's gone farther than what they feel the consensus of American citizens would be. But it does have to go one step at a time and the beginning of the banning of semi-assault military weapons, that are military weapons, not "household" weapons, is the first step."

Stockton, California Mayor Barbara Fass

"I shortly will introduce legislation banning the sale, manufacture or possession of handguns (with exceptions for law enforcement and licensed target clubs). . . . It is time to act. We cannot go on like this. Ban them!"

Sen. John H. Chafee R.-R.I., In View of Handguns' Effects, There's Only One Answer: A Ban, Minneapolis Star Tribune, June 15, 1992

""My staff and I right now are working on a comprehensive gun-control bill. We don't have all the details, but for instance, regulating the sale and purchase of bullets. Ultimately, I would like to see the manufacture and possession of handguns banned except for military and police use. But that's the endgame. And in the meantime, there are some specific things that we can do with legislation."

Bobby Rush; Democrat, U.S. House of Representatives, Chicago Tribune, Dec. 5, 1999

"Mr. Speaker, my bill prohibits the importation, exportation, manufacture, sale, purchase, transfer, receipt, possession, or transportation of handguns and handgun ammunition. It establishes a 6-month grace period for the turning in of handguns. It provides many exceptions for gun clubs, hunting clubs, gun collectors, and other people of that kind."

Rep. Major Owens (D-Brooklyn, N.Y.), 139 Cong. Rec. H9088 at H9094, Nov. 10, 1993

"I would like to dispute that. Truthfully. I know it's an amendment. I know it's in the Constitution. But you know what? Enough! I would like to say, I think there should be a law -- and I know this is extreme -- that no one can have a gun in the U.S. If you have a gun, you go to jail. Only the police should have guns."

Rosie Takes on the NRA, Ottawa Sun, April 29, 1999

"A gun-control movement worthy of the name would insist that President Clinton move beyond his proposals for controls -- such as expanding background checks at gun shows and stopping the import of high-capacity magazines -- and immediately call on Congress to pass far-reaching industry regulation like the Firearms Safety and Consumer Protection Act introduced by Senator Robert Torricelli, Democrat of New Jersey, and Representative Patrick Kennedy, Democrat of Rhode Island. Their measure would give the Treasury Department health and safety authority over the gun industry, and any rational regulator with that authority would ban handguns."

Josh Sugarmann (executive director of the Violence Policy Center, Dispense With the Half Steps and Ban Killing Machines, Houston Chronicle, Nov. 5, 1999

"We will never fully solve our nation's horrific problem of gun violence unless we ban the manufacture and sale of handguns and semiautomatic assault weapons."

Jeff Muchnick, Legislative Director, Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, Better Yet, Ban All Handguns, USA Today, Dec. 29, 1993

"The goal of CSGV is the orderly elimination of the private sale of handguns and assault weapons in the United States."

Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, http://www.csgv.org/content/coalition/coal_intro.html (visited June 20, 2000) (boldface added) ("The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence is composed of 44 civic, professional and religious organizations and 120,000 individual members that advocate for a ban on the sale and possession of handguns and assault weapons.")

"Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The prohibition of private firearms is the goal." U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno, December 1993

"We're bending the law as far as we can to ban an entirely new class of guns." Rahm Emmanuel

"We're going to hammer guns on the anvil of relentless legislative strategy! We're going to beat guns into submission!" Charles Schumer

"Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of all Americans to feel safe." Diane Feinstein

"I don't care about crime, I just want to get the guns." Howard Metzenbaum

"I am one who believes that as a first step the U.S. should move expeditiously to disarm the civilian population, other than police and security officers, of all handguns, pistols and revolvers ...no one should have a right to anonymous ownership or use of a gun." Dean Morris

"I do not believe in people owning guns. Guns should be owned only by the police and military. I am going to do everything I can to disarm this state." Michael Dukakis

"If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them...'Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in,' I would have done it." Diane Feinstein

"No, we're not looking at how to control criminals ... we're talking about banning the AK-47 and semi-automatic guns." --U.S. Senator Howard Metzenbaum

"What good does it do to ban some guns? All guns should be banned." U.S. Senator Howard Metzanbaum, Democrat from Ohio


"Until we can ban all of them , then we might as well ban none." U.S. Senator Howard Metzenbaum, Senate Hearings 1993


"I'm not interested in getting a bill that deals with airport security... all I want to do is get at plastic guns." -U.S. Senator Howard Metzenbaum, 1993

"Nobody should be owning a gun which does not have a sporting purpose." Janet Reno

"We have to start with a ban on the manufacturing and import of handguns. From there we register the guns which are currently owned, and follow that with additional bans and acquisitions of handguns and rifles with no sporting purpose." Major Owens

"If it were up to me we'd ban them all." Mel Reynolds CNN's Crossfire, December 9, 1993
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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 04:54 PM
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1. Bookmark and rec n/t
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 04:56 PM
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2. A link to refer to when trying write coherently:
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 04:58 PM
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3. A link to refer to when your backside is sore..
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 05:56 PM
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6. I trust your wealth of experience in that matter. eom
Edited on Sat Jan-15-11 05:57 PM by bluerum
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TPaine7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 06:23 PM
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7. Have you looked up "coherent"?
co·her·ent {koh-heer-uhnt, -her-}

–adjective
1. logically connected; consistent: a coherent argument.
...


How is your post logically connected to the OP?
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 06:34 PM
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8. Beyond the less than coherent subject line,
Edited on Sat Jan-15-11 06:43 PM by bluerum
the post itself seems not to contain one original thought from the author.

Just thought the author might appreciate a dictionary.

Anything else I can help you with?

on edit - removed disparaging comment about op's subject line
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 06:45 PM
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9. You do know how to miss the point, don't you. Sigh. n/t
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 07:13 PM
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12. I don't shoot very well either.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 12:07 AM
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13. I believe it. 8>) n/t
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TPaine7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 04:59 PM
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4. Obviously you're paranoid! ;-)
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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 05:04 PM
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5. I'm not paranoid. I have plenty of protection
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 06:48 PM
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10. Thanks but make the title of the thread more catchy like
Thread to refer to when they lie about wanting a total gun ban and confiscation
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 07:09 PM
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11. Thanks..
I think I might use a few of these quotes. I know they're after our guns. They aren't fooling anybody.
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 02:54 AM
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15. Who is this "They" you speak of?
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appal_jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 01:08 AM
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14. k&r n/t
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 08:50 PM
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16. Kick NT
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HankyDubs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 12:06 AM
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17. Quoting Krauthammer
instant loss of all credibility.
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 12:02 PM
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18. Yep, he once said that 2 + 2 was 4. I still don't believe him.
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 10:07 AM
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19. Kick!
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