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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 07:45 PM Original message |
Utah - Arrested for openly carrying his "assault rifle" to the mall |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
1. An assault rifle. Ain't no way. n/t |
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Pancho Sanza (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 07:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. When in doubt, consult the official reference |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 12:25 AM Response to Reply #7 |
46. Almost but not quite right |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
2. You see, what he can do is carry his guns to the same place, every day, at the same time... |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. We are in de-evolution. How ridiculous it is to allow someone to walk around with and assault weapo... |
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Pancho Sanza (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
4. Yes, good for the prosecutors. We can't have people doing stupid in public. |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 07:59 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. "good for the prosecutors... even if it's not illegal" - You're a bona fide liberal you say, huh? |
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Pancho Sanza (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 08:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Sorry, I thought the sarcasm would be obvious. |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 08:11 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. oops |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 10:59 AM Response to Reply #4 |
62. Self Delete |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 04:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
80. . |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
5. "He was released because he was technically not breaking the law by carrying the guns openly." |
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Pancho Sanza (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 08:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Yes, the word was only added to create the (wrong) impression that it wasn't REALLY |
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pacalo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
6. Classy. |
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HankyDubs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
9. omg our freedumbs are disappearing! |
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Pancho Sanza (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 08:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. I really hope you're not so sanguine when it comes to provisions of the "Patriot Act" |
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HankyDubs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 08:11 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I'm not sanguine when it comes to the PA |
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Pancho Sanza (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 08:21 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. Probably because most Americans didn't really appreciate all the nuances in the act |
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HankyDubs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 08:26 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. good answer I guess |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 02:32 AM Response to Reply #23 |
50. Emulating Gandhi |
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HankyDubs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 03:23 AM Response to Reply #50 |
54. strawman! |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 08:04 AM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Straw man!! not |
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HankyDubs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 02:19 PM Response to Reply #57 |
67. You needed to copy paste the definition |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 02:40 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. If you understood that definition, you'd realize that the only strawman in this subthread |
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HankyDubs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 09:13 PM Response to Reply #69 |
83. lol |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 09:41 PM Response to Reply #83 |
90. You honestly don't know what a straw man is, do you? |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 02:44 PM Response to Reply #54 |
70. Speaking of strawmen |
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HankyDubs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 09:15 PM Response to Reply #70 |
84. question |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 12:25 AM Response to Reply #84 |
92. None and none. |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 09:16 PM Response to Reply #54 |
85. Reading is fundamental. |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 04:03 PM Response to Reply #23 |
81. Maybe you can explain *this* Gandhi quote for us, then? kthxbye. |
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HankyDubs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 09:18 PM Response to Reply #81 |
86. i'm not sure how it's relevant |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 08:37 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. Where were you on October 27-28, 2001? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 08:40 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Deleted message |
X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 08:53 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. So you have no room to complain if you can't be bothered to show up.. |
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HankyDubs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 09:24 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. How many anti-war protests have you attended? |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 09:41 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. All freedoms are important.. |
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HankyDubs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 09:52 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. All freedoms are important |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 10:00 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Had I said something about 'absolute' then your point would be valid. |
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HankyDubs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 03:27 AM Response to Reply #37 |
55. asserting that |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 09:09 AM Response to Reply #55 |
58. If open carry is legal in a place, then there's nothing 'absolutist' about doing so. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 02:47 PM Response to Reply #55 |
71. Again with strawmen. |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 03:20 PM Response to Reply #55 |
74. I carry concealed at the mall. Any problem with that? |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 03:43 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. That's very reassuring to know we can count on being protected by well |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 03:45 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Every time you go to the mall, you're surrounded by guns you can't see n/t |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 03:56 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Oh, they're not there to protect *you*- and no one claims they are,... |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 02:27 PM Response to Reply #76 |
97. I'm not there for your protection... |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 09:29 PM Response to Reply #55 |
88. Again... |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 11:04 AM Response to Reply #36 |
64. Indeed. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 09:26 PM Response to Reply #15 |
31. Because the P.A., as heinous as it is... |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 11:15 PM Response to Reply #15 |
42. We voted for the Democrat. Duh. nt |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 01:53 AM Response to Reply #15 |
49. The Patriot act is not enough of a reason for armed resistance ... |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 11:40 PM Response to Reply #9 |
44. A man was arrested at gunpoint for engaging in a 100% legal activity |
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Francis Marion (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 03:25 PM Response to Reply #9 |
75. Do the people have the right or not? |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
10. Note that the arrest was recinded... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 08:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. I found out many years ago, to my delight, that there actually is a law against stupidity here in CA |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 08:11 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Have a reference for that? It would be real useful on some occasions. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 08:15 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Pre-Web. I doubt that I could find it. Maybe in the Union-Tribune archives. |
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Pancho Sanza (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 08:11 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. It's just after the criminal citation for Possession of Rape Tools |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 09:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
32. Wouldn't the bulk of the Cali government... |
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HankyDubs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 08:15 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. What he was doing was legal. Dumb but legal. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 08:58 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. Kind of like when you're driving a car, and a school bus stops in front of you... |
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HankyDubs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 09:50 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. lol this again |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 10:24 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Does the primary purpose matter to those injured and dead? |
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HankyDubs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 03:21 AM Response to Reply #38 |
52. yes, it does |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 09:40 AM Response to Reply #52 |
59. Speaking as a person who has been accidentally shot |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 11:19 PM Response to Reply #35 |
43. He probably |
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HankyDubs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 03:21 AM Response to Reply #43 |
53. and again |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 09:46 AM Response to Reply #53 |
60. False equivalency |
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HankyDubs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 02:22 PM Response to Reply #60 |
68. LOL! |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 03:19 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. Simply possessing a firearm |
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HankyDubs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 09:29 PM Response to Reply #73 |
87. nothing simple |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 10:35 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. Please explain how the mere presence of a firearm endangers people |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 02:31 PM Response to Reply #87 |
98. Note also that your feeling of "intimidation"... |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 10:30 AM Response to Reply #53 |
61. If there's a road there. |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 03:57 AM Response to Reply #35 |
56. Holland v. Commonwealth 1956 |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 09:20 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. Just as what Philip Taylor was doing. But *that* offends your sensibilities, so it's OK. |
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YllwFvr (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 10:26 PM Response to Reply #20 |
39. if he had pointed it and pulled the trigger at the crowds |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 02:48 PM Response to Reply #20 |
72. No, all he had to do was LOAD it and he'd have committed a crime. |
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bluerum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
21. Can you say 'kicking a big fucking beehive'. What a dumbass. eom |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 09:31 PM Response to Reply #21 |
33. Sometimes, kicking the beehive is what is required to create change. |
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bluerum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 12:03 AM Response to Reply #33 |
45. False equivalency. Only one side had guns in Selma. And it wasn't the civil rights protesters. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 12:59 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Knowledge is the cure for ignorance. |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 03:53 PM Response to Reply #45 |
78. A group called The Deacons for Defense and Justice would disagree with you. |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
24. Another good reason to restrict guns in public, especially those carried by the stupid. |
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YllwFvr (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 10:28 PM Response to Reply #24 |
40. he was trying to push the boundaries of his rights |
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lawodevolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-21-11 11:05 PM Response to Reply #24 |
41. how do you know he is stupid, do you think he is stupid because he owns a gun? |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 01:39 AM Response to Reply #41 |
48. Took a wild-assed-guess based upon his actions. You don't think he is? |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 11:10 AM Response to Reply #48 |
66. I can cetify my IQ at 147. |
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HankyDubs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 09:10 PM Response to Reply #66 |
82. its always funny |
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KansasVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 01:52 AM Response to Reply #66 |
94. Jesus, are you a piece of work. Bragging about your IQ??? |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 02:37 AM Response to Reply #24 |
51. How are you going to restrict criminals from carrying in public NT? |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
63. The definitive reason why open carry is a bad idea. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 11:07 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Or, maybe you could observe the person for actual odd behavior... |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 12:55 AM Response to Reply #65 |
93. Nobody is going to do that. I would not do that. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 02:24 PM Response to Reply #93 |
96. How does it "cause problems"? |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 02:36 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. Looks like you answered your own question. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 07:32 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. My apologies for the mangled first sentence structure... |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 11:43 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. Simple. |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 05:07 AM Response to Reply #63 |
95. I open carry frequently |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-22-11 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
89. I hope... |
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