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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-11 11:33 PM Original message |
NPR: Justice Dept. Details How It Got Statements Wrong (Fast & Furious) |
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sethgrogen (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-11 12:50 AM Response to Original message |
1. what does all of this mean? |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-11 10:23 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. It means lots of gun owners despise ATF and anyone who might turn off their pipeline to more guns. |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-11 12:15 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. you agree with us that |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-11 02:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. You keep saying things as if they're true hoyt. |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-11 03:44 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. You finally got it, gun dealers are afraid of ATF -- otherwise guns would be flying out back door. |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-11 07:38 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Excuse me? |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-11 09:41 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. Don't bother. Believing is seeing for some- the sort that claim the Iraq invasion was a succe |
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burf (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-11 03:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Are you willing to let your blind hatred of civilian |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-11 03:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. The "slippery slope" is toward arming more and more people in public, sir. |
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burf (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. As long as gun ownership is legal, |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Lots of things are legal, but wrong -- banks stealing, bigots waving confederate flags, etc. |
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burf (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-11 04:00 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Who is the controlling legal authority on excess? |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-11 07:49 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. "The ATF tried a sting ..." |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-11 09:46 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. "Iraq had weapons of mass destruction". "The North Vietnamese attacked us in the Gulf of Tonkin" |
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Oneka (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 09:15 AM Response to Reply #9 |
32. Finally the truth at the heart of the matter. |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-11 05:59 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. 20? You've been claiming (without evidence) 30 or more for months now |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-11 07:48 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Glad to see you finally realizing that F&F worked and there will be more indictments. |
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Oneka (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-11 08:29 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. F&F worked how again? |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-11 09:36 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. That works out to about 10 deaths for every purported indictment caused by F&F |
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burf (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-11 09:37 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. How do we know? |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-11 09:30 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. F&F in no way "worked". And what happened to the other 10 you repeatedly claimed? |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 12:09 AM Response to Reply #16 |
29. never mind the indictments |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 05:22 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Like the case against Carter's Country, which fell apart like a '82 Yugo. |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-11 09:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
19. Short answer before the lawyers got ahold of it |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-11 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
2. people died, the justice department lied. |
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burf (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-11 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
3. How they got it wrong? |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-11 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
8. And when you get down to motives for these operations, how 'bout this: |
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discntnt_irny_srcsm (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-11 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
25. It is said that... |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 12:06 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. We have seen Holder's character on other areas |
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discntnt_irny_srcsm (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 12:51 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. I was just thinking... |
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Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-11 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
26. let the flames begin |
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burf (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-11 11:41 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Holder is scheduled to appear |
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