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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 10:54 AM Original message |
Guns on campus is a maniacal idea (NH) |
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HopeHoops (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
1. Guns and booze have ALWAYS made a great combination. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
2. That's my Loonislature! |
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Old Codger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
3. Somebody might |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
4. Soooooo... all you nay-sayers can cite to evidence that this has been detrimental.... |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 01:17 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Do you have any evidence it has been beneficial to anyone but those who like to carry guns? |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 01:28 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. I don't really need to.... as, if it does not harm, it's a moot issue. |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 04:55 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. I asked that question nearly a year ago, and have yet to get *any* examples: |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 07:43 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. That is not how all the students feel |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 09:05 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. One problem |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 02:11 PM Response to Reply #28 |
49. Which of those named had concealed carry permits? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 09:06 PM Response to Reply #16 |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 07:46 PM Response to Reply #12 |
29. Can you prove that the life you lived has been beneficial to anyone |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 09:12 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. Had 734 positives when I searched under, "Is Hoyt XXXXX worth a shit?" |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 02:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
51. As long as it isn't harmful, who cares? n/t |
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We_Have_A_Problem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 03:10 PM Response to Reply #12 |
52. You have any evidence it has to be? |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
5. I see no reason why a properly trained permit holder shouldn't be able to carry on campus |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 07:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
30. The antis can not even state what "properly trained " is to them. n/t |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
6. Please explain this statement... |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 01:08 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. By not making it required. Everyone - criminal or not deserves to pack heat - Live Free or... |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 01:42 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. To which background check does that statement refer? N/T |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 01:48 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. To carry a GOP/NRA/ALEC/Koch Bros. concealed gun in NH |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 02:40 AM Response to Reply #19 |
40. I've never seen that brand |
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nightwhisper (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
7. Guns on Campus are a good thing |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. thanks - I couldn't have explained better why this is lunacy. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 01:07 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. thanks - You couldn't have fallen more flat-faced for a one-time poster. nt |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 01:06 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Gun Hero!!!!111 We who are about to die salute you! |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 02:41 AM Response to Reply #9 |
41. Gun hero? Please define or is this just another one of your buzz words. |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 01:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. So how did you know this person was a "druink driver" before you started blazing away heroically |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 01:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. And that is a perfect example of why guns in public are crazy. |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Welcome to DU. n/t |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 07:50 PM Response to Reply #15 |
32. You found a kindred spirit. |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 07:48 PM Response to Reply #7 |
31. Are you serious? You shot a guy driving a car? |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 10:45 AM Response to Reply #7 |
47. And then you lifted the car up over your head with your bare hands and tossed it away! |
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Kurmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
18. Did we learn nothing from the Virginia Tech tragedy? |
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DonP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 02:02 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Yes, we learned that criminals and the insane ignore gun bans - no matter how well intentioned |
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Union Scribe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 06:50 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. ^ This. |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 06:55 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. VT was a gun free zone |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 02:43 AM Response to Reply #18 |
42. YUP |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 09:29 AM Response to Reply #18 |
44. No, apparently you didn't. |
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Kurmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 06:38 PM Response to Reply #44 |
56. I learned an excesss of guns, sold by the uncaring vender of them caused the tragedy. |
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We_Have_A_Problem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 06:43 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Nothing to spin |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 06:50 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. It's like blaming child porn and identity theft on the easy availability of computers. |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 06:44 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. in order to have this fuel, |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 06:46 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Did Cho's guns tell him "Go shoot up VT"? Guns are inanimate objects, not the Ring of Sauron. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 06:48 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. The vendor had nothing to do with it, and followed the law precisely. |
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ManiacJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
21. The college administrators seem to not know their student demographics. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
22. Here's the bigger problem.... |
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Francis Marion (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
24. An American university... |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 07:56 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. You're right - it's a place of learning |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 09:10 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. don't know much about the UCMJ do you? |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 02:06 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. I know Miranda is not in the BOR |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 04:02 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. I have not heard anyone suggest arming students and teachers - rather, people advocate |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 10:12 AM Response to Reply #39 |
46. Actually, Miranda is explaining the 5th, so yeah |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 09:30 AM Response to Reply #33 |
45. 21+ year olds aren't 'kids'. |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 04:55 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. Anyone under 50 is a kid to me. |
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We_Have_A_Problem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 05:29 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. I understand what you're saying... |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 08:46 PM Response to Reply #55 |
63. And carrying a gun around on the off chance one might need it for SD makes no sense to me |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 10:58 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Then don't do it. However, what makes sense for you to do in your own personal |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 10:45 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. I think you're wrong. People go to college for a specific purpose - to study |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 10:53 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. drinking in class? |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 11:40 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. I meant alcohol, but I think you knew that. |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 11:55 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Actually |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 01:03 AM Response to Reply #74 |
78. You know, I might be OK with that. Depends on screening process. |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 01:12 AM Response to Reply #78 |
81. campus police are often |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 04:39 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. It's not arbitrary power. It's bestowed power having been earned and |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 12:51 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Ummm.... you have very... odd... ideas.... about Civil Rights. n/t |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 05:20 PM Response to Reply #85 |
91. Really? What is odd about them? |
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We_Have_A_Problem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 05:29 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. I am not able to think of a single... |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 08:13 PM Response to Reply #92 |
97. Really? Why does that not surprise me? |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 10:34 PM Response to Reply #97 |
109. That's the problem. |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 10:51 PM Response to Reply #109 |
112. Indeed |
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We_Have_A_Problem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 09:29 AM Response to Reply #97 |
116. Those are not everyday situations |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 03:04 PM Response to Reply #116 |
134. They are every day to many people. Maybe not to you. You apparently live in a bubble. |
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We_Have_A_Problem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 05:06 PM Response to Reply #134 |
138. I am still quite capable... |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 08:14 PM Response to Reply #138 |
142. We all feel more secure knowing that you "still carry other forms of arms" on airplanes. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #142 |
152. I have weapons on aircraft too. You probably do as well. |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 10:02 PM Response to Reply #152 |
157. What insinuations? |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 05:30 PM Response to Reply #83 |
93. see definition one |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 07:04 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. I thought we were talking about the power of college administrators. |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 06:57 PM Response to Reply #74 |
94. 1887-1995? Damn, I thought *I* took a long time to graduate. |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 11:27 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. Rules pertaining to the specific purpose of the university are fine, although I think |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 12:13 AM Response to Reply #72 |
75. I understand your position. It's not complicated. |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 12:19 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. As a church/state separation near absolutist, |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 01:05 AM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Agreed |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 12:48 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. The whole world is full of "all kinds of folk in all kinds of moods" and students live in the world |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 01:10 AM Response to Reply #77 |
80. This isn't about right or wrong, we have different opinions |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 01:34 AM Response to Reply #80 |
82. "A school is not a democracy" said the fellow who, a mere five posts ago, |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #75 |
86. College is nowhere near the only stressful or even most stressful point in most people's life. |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 08:28 PM Response to Reply #86 |
98. Maybe you didn't undergo the pressure that students endure today. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 10:33 PM Response to Reply #98 |
108. Pressure? I've been in the military over 20 years. I know what pressure is. |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 11:05 PM Response to Reply #108 |
114. You've been in the military for over 20 years? You haven't had enough of guns yet? |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 09:03 AM Response to Reply #114 |
115. If you think we carry guns at work, it demonstrates your ignorance of the military. |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #115 |
120. I was referring to friends and family who did tours of combat, but you knew that. |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 09:05 PM Response to Reply #75 |
102. Private vs public |
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We_Have_A_Problem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 01:24 PM Response to Reply #68 |
87. Exactly what rights do they forfeit? |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 08:34 PM Response to Reply #87 |
99. By abiding to campus rules. |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 08:59 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. " 1A rights are usually restricted to public areas." Sadly, you are not alone in that attitude: |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 09:19 PM Response to Reply #100 |
103. Ideas are fine in the classroom. Guns have no place. |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 09:25 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. What problems have legally carried guns caused to that group known as... |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 10:39 PM Response to Reply #103 |
110. You can use that reason to excuse all individual injustice. |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 02:37 PM Response to Reply #110 |
117. You have an odd perspective for someone in the military |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 04:17 PM Response to Reply #117 |
123. Your feelings aside, what harm does it cause? There are several dozen campuses where it is legal. |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 05:23 PM Response to Reply #123 |
126. How do you define harm? |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 11:43 PM Response to Reply #126 |
132. Define it yourself. Call it "moral harm", if you wish. But be specific. |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 03:20 PM Response to Reply #123 |
136. I suggest you read this if you want some perspective on the subject. |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 03:54 PM Response to Reply #136 |
137. I think he was |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 07:30 PM Response to Reply #136 |
140. "Students should not be wandering alone at night." |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 09:52 PM Response to Reply #140 |
155. Anyone carrying a gun is potentially contributing to the problem |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 10:05 PM Response to Reply #155 |
159. Anyone carrying a penis is potentially contributing to the problem |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 10:05 PM Response to Reply #155 |
160. how many of those stolen guns |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 10:23 PM Response to Reply #160 |
161. I have always advocated disarming the police. |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 10:26 PM Response to Reply #136 |
144. It elided the fact that the student fired back after being shot first by an attempted robber... |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 09:59 PM Response to Reply #144 |
156. Not relevant. I'm very familiar with this incident. |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-13-11 10:00 PM Response to Reply #156 |
162. You're not the first to blame the victim and defer to the better nature of predators. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 07:28 PM Response to Reply #117 |
139. Why on earth do you think I value them so greatly, and not want to see them restricted.... |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 09:46 PM Response to Reply #139 |
143. We all value our rights. Few people want them restricted. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 12:17 AM Response to Reply #143 |
146. It seems I'm not the one wishing here. If you value Rights so poorly, we're done here. n/t |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 04:33 PM Response to Reply #146 |
150. Valuing something does not necessitate abusing it or being obsessed with it. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 05:37 PM Response to Reply #150 |
151. You may stop the insinuations, accusations and stereotyping at any time. n/t |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 10:04 PM Response to Reply #151 |
158. Please explain what you mean. |
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Francis Marion (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-07-12 12:27 PM Response to Reply #103 |
163. But dangerous 'things' are mandatory in the classroom. |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 08:59 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. What happened to academic freedom? |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 09:22 PM Response to Reply #101 |
104. What does academic freedom have to do with it? |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 10:11 PM Response to Reply #104 |
107. You said students lose their 1A |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 02:44 PM Response to Reply #107 |
118. Don't be absurd. I never said anyone loses their rights. |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 03:31 PM Response to Reply #118 |
121. In the classroom, |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 05:26 PM Response to Reply #121 |
127. Wrong on all counts. |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 12:13 AM Response to Reply #127 |
133. sure about that? |
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We_Have_A_Problem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 09:42 AM Response to Reply #63 |
67. Fine. That's your choice. Nobody is telling you to carry one. |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 10:46 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. I'm not telling you not to carry. I'm asking you to reconsider. |
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We_Have_A_Problem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 10:44 AM Response to Reply #69 |
84. I have reconsidered |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 05:17 PM Response to Reply #84 |
89. And contributing to the problem is yet another thing. |
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We_Have_A_Problem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 05:19 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. I agree - it certainly is. |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 07:08 PM Response to Reply #90 |
96. Supporting tha ongoing proliferation of handguns contributes to the problem |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 09:28 PM Response to Reply #96 |
106. What "problem"? The violent crime rate is *down*, even as the number of guns increase. |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 10:50 PM Response to Reply #106 |
111. What problem? Lemme think. Hmm.... |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 11:05 PM Response to Reply #111 |
113. different populations |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 02:49 PM Response to Reply #113 |
119. "gangsters killing other gangsters fighting over who gets to fill someone's bong bowl" |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 03:34 PM Response to Reply #119 |
122. pot heads, coke heads of all ages |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 05:33 PM Response to Reply #122 |
128. I give up. You obviously live in a capsule. |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 11:33 PM Response to Reply #128 |
129. suicides are different |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 11:35 PM Response to Reply #128 |
130. For the sake of your argument, you should *hope* that suicides don't count. |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 06:08 PM Response to Reply #128 |
153. Elegant linguistic trickery, nothing more. |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 11:39 PM Response to Reply #111 |
131. The rate of those is declining as well, so while still a problem, it's a diminished one. |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 03:08 PM Response to Reply #131 |
135. "so while still a problem" - Eureka! |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 10:31 PM Response to Reply #135 |
145. Yes. Better education, more gun safety classes, and an end to the pointless War on (some) Drugs. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 01:43 PM Response to Reply #33 |
48. We do a lot of learning in the military, frequently while heavily armed. |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 04:59 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. I'm not knocking the military. On the contrary. |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 07:10 PM Response to Reply #33 |
62. LOL. |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 01:31 PM Response to Reply #33 |
88. I forget where I first heard that |
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Francis Marion (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 02:17 PM Response to Reply #33 |
147. It's a place of learning alright: |
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Francis Marion (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 02:40 PM Response to Reply #33 |
148. When and where... |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 03:54 PM Response to Reply #148 |
149. some argue that slavery still exists |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 09:32 PM Response to Reply #33 |
154. P.S. You are dead wrong, the BoR applies to us.... |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-11 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
27. are they really not safer? You think the criminals noticed the laws or lack of? |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 01:56 AM Response to Original message |
38. Blood in the streets, etc. |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
50. If you are 21, you are legal, college or no college. |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 12:50 AM Response to Reply #50 |
66. a logical next question |
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Simo 1939_1940 (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
65. I have asked pro-restrictionists to rebut **ONE** of the |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 04:22 PM Response to Reply #65 |
124. private gun safes that can be secured to walls -- stupid |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 07:32 PM Response to Reply #124 |
141. Who said anything about "have to"? |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
71. The President of UNH cited frat house behavior as a reason to not allow CCW, but the frats are not.. |
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guardian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
125. How can there be any guns on campuses? |
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