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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 05:42 PM Original message |
"It was like a movie... I drew the gun halfway out..." 17-yr-old teen... |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
1. Well she shore got a lotta 'tention out of that um, true story. nt |
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Fair Witness (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 07:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. It's pretty clear what segment of "society" would benefit most from a gun ban. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 10:37 AM Response to Reply #5 |
28. Whoa, hold on pardner. |
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We_Have_A_Problem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 12:18 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Really? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 08:35 PM Response to Reply #33 |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 09:15 PM Original message |
"Don't be a tool"? Only a tool would think that the brady bunch does not want to ban guns. |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 09:15 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Righttt |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 12:37 AM Response to Reply #66 |
71. Perhaps you should look up their actual history: |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 01:15 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Did you mean to just shoot yourself in the foot (pun intended)? |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 01:19 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Actually no |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 08:08 AM Response to Reply #72 |
76. What, a mealy-mouthed half-position? |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 08:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
75. How mature. |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
2. Cool story Bro(ette). |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
3. For the unbelievers: |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
4. I wonder how the looters would characterize that particular young lady... |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 09:39 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. hateful bitch toter... |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
6. Anybody know what was worth shooting unarmed people over in carport and backyard? |
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Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 08:57 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. anybody know any reason why people go uninvited to property that is clearly not their own? |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 09:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Hardly worth shooting someone over, but then gunners have invested heavily in capability to |
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Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 09:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. "I must have had a scary look on my face, because they got the picture and got back in their car and |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 10:09 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. You are perfectly free to trust the finer instincts of a group of looters. |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 09:41 PM Response to Reply #8 |
69. When are you going to stop your make believe BS? |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 08:09 AM Response to Reply #8 |
78. Thou art troll. |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 09:40 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. true dat...would have been better to have let them rape her. |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 06:08 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Rape? I don't see any evidence rape was on the agenda. But then, you gun carriers imagine |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 09:14 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Hey chance you gotta take right? I suppose she was unwilling to take that chance... |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 09:41 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. You guys sure have vivid imagination -- sounds a bit paranoid/irrational, but a gun will cure it. |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 04:42 PM Response to Reply #26 |
42. And yet we aren't the ones calling for a ban on "toting"... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 10:28 AM Response to Reply #17 |
27. Deleted message |
Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 04:27 PM Response to Reply #17 |
37. yeah, these guys in the gungeon are far more worried about RAPE!!!! than any of the women |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 04:38 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Well, that obviously disqualifies their point of view. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 04:45 PM Response to Reply #41 |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 05:02 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. I'm sure. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 05:15 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. But this woman did "carry a gun to be able to leave the house." |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 05:09 PM Response to Reply #37 |
48. Did "...any of the women you know" include this l7-yr-old? |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 10:11 PM Response to Reply #17 |
70. "They were rummaging through crap in a carport. " |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 10:14 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. All their belongings and property not destroyed by fire? |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 10:17 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. It is quite clear that you did not read the article. |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 06:14 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. "My ignorance" -- How about applauding someone ready to shoot people rummaging through yard stuff. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 08:14 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Post #3. |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 10:46 AM Response to Reply #18 |
31. You're remarkably eager to bet *other people's* safety and/or money for them. |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 04:33 PM Response to Reply #18 |
38. When its YOUR carport... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 04:51 PM Response to Reply #38 |
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quickesst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 03:07 PM Response to Reply #38 |
85. Most excellent... |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 04:33 PM Response to Reply #18 |
39. Yeah, because Property Rights, along with the 2nd Amendment, are old-fashioned. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 05:22 PM Response to Reply #18 |
53. You really want an MSM story of a DGU? Really? |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 09:33 AM Response to Reply #6 |
24. Maybe the fact that they could have broken in, raped, and killed her? |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 11:54 AM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Protecting ones' property: Good Idea(tm) n/t |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 12:42 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. I'm just saying, if I were safe in a house, and people were looting material items outside |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 04:35 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. you sound mighty sensible ... too sensible for this forum. |
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We_Have_A_Problem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 05:17 PM Response to Reply #40 |
50. You missed that whole part about... |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 11:17 AM Response to Reply #50 |
84. so why would one leave the (relative) safety of the house? |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 05:25 PM Response to Reply #40 |
54. "Get out of the house" -- past 3 looters. Kind of risky, no? nt |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 11:16 AM Response to Reply #54 |
83. read for comprehension.... |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 04:32 PM Response to Reply #83 |
88. What you said, if you can re-read... |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 08:55 AM Response to Reply #88 |
105. only if there is only ONE way in/out of the house.... |
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MicaelS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 12:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
34. To prevent the theft of property that it might taken years of work |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 09:29 PM Response to Reply #6 |
68. Please point out to me where anyone was shot |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 08:09 AM Response to Reply #6 |
77. Reading comprehension fail. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-11 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
15. Killing people over stuff is fucked up. nt |
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Straw Man (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 02:01 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. First, no one was killed. |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 06:43 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Happens all the time |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 08:23 AM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Lack of reading comprehension is fucked up. nt |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 09:40 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Yes, your lack of reading comprehension is fucked up. |
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We_Have_A_Problem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 10:37 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Correct - she did not want to... |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 04:47 PM Response to Reply #29 |
45. Killing someone for stealing is fucking blood-thirsty nuts. |
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We_Have_A_Problem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 05:18 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. Think what you wish |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 05:27 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Fine then. I am crossing 'drive to Texas and steal stuff' off my list. |
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We_Have_A_Problem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 05:32 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Good idea. |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 05:49 PM Response to Reply #45 |
59. Then you are willing to open up YOUR home to anybody that wants your property? |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 07:49 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. I won't kill you if you take my shit, if that is what you are asking. nt |
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We_Have_A_Problem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 10:50 AM Response to Reply #61 |
81. Cool - what's your address? |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 04:33 PM Response to Reply #81 |
89. You may have some interest in the piles of cash and hamster porn I have laying around. |
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We_Have_A_Problem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 04:55 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. Funny... |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 05:05 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. You asked me a joke question, so I gave you a joke answer. |
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We_Have_A_Problem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 05:11 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. I was actually quite serious |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 05:26 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. Ownership is an abstract concept that really only exists in our imaginations. |
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We_Have_A_Problem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 05:31 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Ahh - and here i thought I was having a discussion with a rational person. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 05:54 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. What is the nature of property? What is your philosophy toward the reality of ownership? |
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We_Have_A_Problem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 05:59 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. Nothing abstract about it at all. |
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Marengo (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 04:42 AM Response to Reply #95 |
104. Who owns your body? The state? N/T |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 03:30 AM Response to Reply #45 |
74. So is a zombie horde |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 04:34 PM Response to Reply #74 |
90. Ha! nt |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 09:04 AM Response to Reply #45 |
80. Is it? |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 04:40 PM Response to Reply #80 |
91. I thought about basic survival items, but that was not part of the scenerio in the OP, |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 10:43 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. From the original article: |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 04:45 PM Response to Reply #30 |
43. If someone is stealing from me, and my choices were do nothing or kill that person, |
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We_Have_A_Problem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 05:18 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. The problem is.... |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 08:07 PM Response to Reply #52 |
65. I assumed nothing. nt |
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We_Have_A_Problem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 10:51 AM Response to Reply #65 |
82. Yes you did. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 04:26 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. I did not assume that in slightest. That is your fantasy about me. nt |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 07:44 PM Response to Reply #43 |
60. Here's the problem: Your assumptions are crap. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 08:07 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. What assumptions? Your post makes no sense. nt |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 07:51 PM Response to Reply #43 |
62. Your other bad assumption: the choice is not binary. n/t |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 08:06 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Context is important here. I was answering a question. nt |
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MicaelS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 12:22 PM Response to Reply #15 |
35. Stealing people's property ... |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 05:29 PM Response to Reply #35 |
56. I agree, but I don't think people would be killed over it. nt |
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We_Have_A_Problem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 05:33 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. I do. |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 09:01 AM Response to Reply #35 |
79. I have a super-dislike for thieves. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 04:29 PM Response to Reply #79 |
87. DU is FILLED with thieves. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 06:07 PM Response to Reply #87 |
99. I don't. And that some do is not justification to turn a blind eye. n/t |
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Fair Witness (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 06:33 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. I don't either, nor do I consider "because I want it" sufficient rationale to just take "it". |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 07:55 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. Self-delete, replying to wrong place. Ooops.... n/t |
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Fair Witness (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 06:09 PM Response to Reply #15 |
100. I guess that explains why no bank robber has ever been shot and killed by cops. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-11 10:17 PM Response to Reply #100 |
103. Cops are fucked up. nt |
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jeepnstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-11 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
23. Ban guns, do it for the Looters. |
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