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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 06:48 AM
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Child shot in Texas welfare standoff dies
Authorities say a 12-year-old girl shot by her mother during a standoff at a Texas welfare office has died.

Laredo police spokesman Joe Baeza said Ramie Grimmer died Wednesday at a San Antonio hospital. Her 10-year-old brother was in critical condition.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/12/07/9288066-child-shot-in-texas-welfare-standoff-dies
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 07:06 AM
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 07:50 AM
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2. The mother was reportedly very mentally unstable
according to relatives. No link, but that's what local reports in San Antonio are saying.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 07:57 AM
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3. Great combination.
Mentally unstable and a gun.
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catbyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 08:32 AM
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4. Keep relaxing gun laws while gutting mental health funding, Texas
and this is what you get.

:cry:

Diane
Anishinaabe in MI
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Remmah2 Donating Member (971 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 08:43 AM
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6. Pre-conception laws might be a better start.
I believe that men/women should have a right to choose. It should start by choosing better partners. People need to think 20, 30 years into the future as they make decisions.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 08:55 AM
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7. What laws were "relaxed" that enabled this?
Seriously question.
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 11:51 AM
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9. What crystal ball led you to that conclusion?
Cite the relevant 'relaxed gun law' please.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 03:57 PM
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12. Sorry, but we will not be your moral punching bag...
Texas and most states have cut funding for almost every facet of government; it's the way of the smash 'n' grab Far Right. The gun laws in Texas are not much different than from those of other states; in some respects, they are more restrictive than in liberal Vermont.

You may wish to take another look at this case, and assign at least some of your pathos to the perpetrator of the murders.
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Remmah2 Donating Member (971 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 08:39 AM
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5. I've been following this series of articles since it happened.
Where is the biological father? How does he fit into this story?
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 11:50 AM
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8. Very sad.
Whatever your opinion of the mother, the kids had nothing to do with it.

All the child's potential, lost.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 12:37 PM
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10. guns seem to have this impact
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 02:11 PM
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11. Try not to get any blood on your dancing shoes.
People have killed their children will all sorts of implements in the past. It may not have even made it 'easier'.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 04:00 PM
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13. Oh, but moral outrage has a just-so emotional slot; knives, drowning don't count. nt
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Fair Witness Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 04:33 PM
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14. Susan Smith didn't have a gun.
:shrug:
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 05:48 PM
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15. and the Mother of these children did
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Fair Witness Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 08:40 PM
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18. Good thing she didn't have a school bus.
:eyes:
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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 12:59 PM
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20. Yes, and these children are no more or less dead than Susan Smith's.
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 05:53 PM
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16. Guns are not the devil, they did not make this happen
sick, sick, sick
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Union Scribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 06:17 PM
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17. No, soul-crushing poverty and unobtainable mental health care have this impact. nt
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 01:49 AM
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19. +1
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 01:42 PM
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21. yes
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 04:57 PM
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22. And in all the outrage over gun shot victims, we lose track of this poor soul...


http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/blotter/entries/2011/12/07/index.html

Fatima Barrie, an H-T student, fights for her life. After being stabbed.
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