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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 10:43 PM
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What psychotic hate looks like
Frankly I am stunned. Several people emailed this to me and each time I read it, I was stunned. I lost family in the Holocaust (as most of you know) and I suffered at the hands of the Soviets (for being a Jew) as well. But because I am against war, especially war for profit and because I felt that Saddam's execution was handled badly, I am a Judenrat:


"In the end, all radical 'religious progressives' are the Judenrat and kapos of their respective faiths and of our time.

By accepting and ascribing to beliefs and ideologies of Leftism, 'religious progressives' have made a deal with the very devil that would destroy them. Disagree with a 'religious progressive,' and like their progressive masters, tolerance goes out the window because dissent cannot be tolerated- because the 'emperor has no clothes.'

The Left has gone from supporting liberal ideologies that were inclusive and universal, to supporting ideologies that are fascist. There is no way any observer can come to any other conclusion. A lot of the moral capital earned by Liberalism, has been squandered by Leftists in the support of causes that are clearly bankrupt and by ignoring causes that go begging.

The Left watched as Rwanda paid with the blood of over a million men, women and children. The Left stands idly by as Darfur unfolds, in slow motion, as testimony to the cruelest nature of man. In Algeria, the GIA raped and dismembered children as the left watched. The list goes on and on, as atrocities from Sierra Leone to East Timor to the oppression and repression dispensed by Middle East despots and religious zealots are ignored.

<snip>

To the radical 'religious progressives' the world would be right if Jews weren't so Jewish, or insisted on defending themselves and just allowed the themselves to be 'blessed' victims. Religious progressives must somehow distinguish themselves from their anti semitic secular brothers, you see.

In the same way the Judenrat believed the Germans were a 'civilized' nation, many 'religious progressives' have deluded themselves. In the end they believe, their secular progressive brothers in arms are 'enlightened' and 'intellectual.'

Of course there is never good news when it comes to human and religious rights in nations ruled by despots and identified as the left's 'comrades in arms'. The enthusiastic support for dysfunctional and repressive Islamic and Middle Eastern regimes, is perhaps the most disturbing- and another truth that cannot be denied. These regimes make no excuse for their politics or their support for terror, nor do they even attempt to hide their hate and bigotry, broadcast in media, taught in schools and preached from the pulpit.

That these regimes have used religion as justification for their barbarism is cynically exploited by the left. One the one hand, says the Left, 'we must respect their religion and their politics,' and on the other hand, they point to religion and say, 'This is the evil religion represents. We must separate ourselves and our politics from religion.'

All the while the erstwhile kapos of the left, the 'religious progressives,' remain silent.

<snip>

Despite witnessing the out of control and barbaric behaviors of whole societies, the radical 'religious progressives' have turned a the blind eye to evil. They have come to accept and tolerate the most evil kind of behavior and remain silent. They and their secular brothers have aligned themselves with some of the most evil and dysfunctional tyrannies on the face of this earth.

They refuse to condemn the atrocities and hate and they will not condemn others who support the evil. Like the Judenrat before them, 'religious progressives' have come to believe the script. They openly encourage and even demand dysfunctional and self destructive behaviors that will inevitably lead to destruction, all in the name of healing and enlightenment. The 'religious progressives,' more than anyone, have embarked on the newest crusade. Join us they say, do it our way, or you will be destroyed. Plus ca change, plus ca reste la meme.

<snip>

Shrill leftists like Larisa Alexandrovna speak of Israel, America and the Holocaust "(and as a Jew I have some personal interest in this myself obviously) " as if somehow, being Jewish gave her words added credibility.

Like other progressives, she needs to sacrifice the truth on the altar of deceit.

Alexandrovna deceives with ease. She is like the kapo that knows the truth, and refuses to warn others of the truth. She focuses on the activities of some pre war American and British banks. What she does not acknowledge that some 6 years after the Holocaust, the Arab mantra of 'We'll finish what Hitler started' is part and parcel of what passes for an Arab world educational priority.

She minimizes the participation of many Muslims during the Holocaust. Amin Husseini, mufti of Jerusalem, met with Hitler and offered his enthusiastic support for the 'final solution.' In fact, Husseni was to complain that Jews weren't being killed fast enough.

Husseini's support wasn't only rhetorical- he raised an army of Bosnian volunteers that directly supported and participated in the Nazi war efforts.

In fact, Ms Alexandrovna is nothing more than a modern day equivalent of member of the Judenrat or kapo, perfectly willing to help the leftists sell out Israel so that she might maintain her 'progressive' bona fides (she is managing news editor of 'Raw Story,' and has contributed to Huffington, Alternet, Rolling Stone, Vanity Fair and Newsweek). She isn't like those 'other Jews.' She an 'enlightened' and 'intellectual' Jew. She is part of the elite, or so she thinks.

Nowhere does Alexandrovna or the radical 'religious progressives' state an obvious truth: If the Arab world were to recognize Israel's right to exist and abandon their stated desire to slaughter Jews, peace would be a Middle East reality in days."


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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 10:50 PM
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1. In this person's eyes, it's either their world view or none, and despite
how intelligent this person sounds, he/she isn't. Knowledge comes from looking at all sides, and this person is so wrapped up in their own beliefs they can't see the forest for the trees.
Hugs to you, and don't let the bastids get you down. :hug:
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 10:50 PM
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2. The Anonymous Fascist
takes all kinds Larisa

Judenrat? I guess you at least are part of the "elite" in this fascist pig's mind!

What a piece of trash

sorry

:hug: :loveya:
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 10:53 PM
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3. i cannot get my mind around it...
it is so obscene to me, that i would rather he called me a commie or a bitch or anything else for that matter. i want to vomit.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 10:56 PM
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6. So let me get this right:
You're being accused of hating yourself? So you are an anti-Semite? Oh my, this is what these right-wingers resort to when they can't get people to agree with them.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 11:03 PM
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10. worse than that...
it is a worse thing than that... trust me, it is the ugliest thing you can call a Jewish person
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 11:46 PM
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22. And the best thing you can do is find a way to let it roll off
because then they lose. And they desperately want to win but they desperately deserve to lose.

Easier said than done, I know.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 10:57 PM
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7. It Is Obscene lala
don't let it get you down, you are still my hero!

:hug: :loveya:

He's just a product of some kind of twisted thinking that goes on in some people's heads. There's a few of them around here in a place called Elohim City as a matter of fact:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim_City

Hate is alive and, well not well, but alive!

don't let it stop you sweetie!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 10:55 PM
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 10:55 PM
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5. Awful people. I'm so sorry they have targetted you.
:hug:
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 11:16 PM
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17. and for you
:grouphug:
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 11:00 PM
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8. That psycho needs a lot of couchtime himself.
Disgusting.
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 11:01 PM
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9. How does this person feel about Bush doing business with Saudi Arabia?
Or Dick Cheney's Halliburton doing business in Iraq in the 90's? It's the RIGHT, not left, that's allowing Darfur to disintegrate.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 11:13 PM
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13. This apparently is in reaction
to my writing that the Saddam execution was done badly, and illegally... clearly this fool does not know his history because he does not seem to know that we armed Saddam, that our ally, as you point out, the Saudi regime does not recognize Israel, and that western interests funded Hitler's rise. this is the stupidity we are up against and me knowing this apparently makes me a murderer of my own people... nice!
:wtf:
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 08:26 PM
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34. This fool also forgets that W's grandfather, Prescott Bush, actually did
business with the Nazis.
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 11:04 PM
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11. As an atheist looking at this horseshit sent to you..I'm just going to keep my mouth shut...
What-fucking-ever. My comments would only pour gas on the fire.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 11:16 PM
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15. not a religious thing... an ethnic thing
a moral thing even, but not a religious thing. not sure why your comments would start a flame, but just wanted to explain it is not a religious thing. for what it is worth:)
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 11:10 PM
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12. You can't let this bullshit get to you. If you do, the hatemongers win. There are people
whose own lives are so pointless that they can't think of anything better to do than to attack those whose lives include real experiences.

They're jealous. Ignore them.

Redstone
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 11:13 PM
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14. This sounds like a neocon rant. For them, understanding is untolerable.
they hate those who look for ways to bridge the divide and understand and accept others. The neocons want to destroy the muslims as much as they say the muslims want to destroy them. They hate just as much. They do not believe in tolerant and hate those who practice it.
You are a good and extrodinary person to be able to take the horrors of your past and turn it into something of peace and understanding. You should be seen as a hero. a rare person who rises above it.
Do not let them destroy you and your heart.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 11:16 PM
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16. Why did you read past the first lying premise?
You can't build truth on a lie. It comforts many fascists to equate Jews to Nazis, I notice. And this one, it seems from a quick glance, is happily equating both Jews and Muslims with Nazis. And some Christians? Saying "religious progressives" is a nice slide over the number of Jews who disagree with Israeli policies as well as Christians.

The writer wants "the Arab world" to recognize Israel's right to exist and stop trying to murder the country. Gosh, that sounds easy! Except we're dealing with people, and tribes , and groups, and allegiances, and history, and betrayals...and it's a little less simple when the "world" is more than one person and each person has a private history and experience.

I don't give a damn that Saddam was killed, but it didn't do us a bit of good, and if we're in charge, why did we mess it up so much? But then, I still don't think we should have deposed the mean old dictator.

Nobody who sent you this crap is a friend.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 11:35 PM
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21. It was sent to me over and over...
So I read a little more each time trying to figure out why the hell people were sending it to me... and then jaw drop. I have never in my life been called that or heard anyone I know use that term. It is not a term decent people use. I am more calm now after seeing that my reaction appears to be normal, thanks to you kind folks. At first I thought I was just simply overreacting.

HUGS and thanks:)

PS no they are friends, they were shocked and asked if I had seen it type thing
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 11:23 PM
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18. god, go read some of the other tripe on that blog....
ouch.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 11:24 PM
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19. I regret that I have but rec. to give this story.
Cryin' shame what these fools are up to.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 11:25 PM
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20. What. the. Fuck?!
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 11:55 PM
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23. Well, we think you are wonderful.
And that guy is a schmuck. :P

So there. :hug:
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 11:58 PM
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24. You know, the truth cuts right through their bullshit.
Fuck them...they're idiots.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 12:02 AM
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25. I disagree with the simplistic loser whose bile can't find brains to dance with.
I like you. I think you're smart, and you work really, really hard to make good things happen.

Signed,

Simplistic Winner

:)
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 01:58 AM
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27. I like you too:)
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 12:03 AM
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26. To be mentioned by name by such people is like a badge of honor
Congrats.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 02:29 AM
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28. I hope you were able to take an extra long shower
after that.

No one should have to put up with that kind of defamation.

On the other hand, if we can judge you by your enemies . . .
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 06:00 AM
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29. from the people who want to legally force ignorance
on all of us.

worse than disgusting.

i find it threatening --

sorry you had to endure that.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 08:39 AM
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30. Nothing psychotic about it. Carefully done propaganda.
All of the memes used have been visible here for years. The volume is turned up, but that is just a sign that the message is not getting through.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 12:46 PM
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33. Indeed, Sir: It Is A Professional Piece....
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Lurking Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 09:17 AM
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31. I can't believe people don't have
better uses of their time than to post bile like that.

What a loser.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 11:06 AM
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32. It is not worth your time
to be reading this type of shit. The only question is: Who owns the problem here? The author of this crude essay has moral rabies. You don't. He owns the problem.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 10:41 PM
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35. Not worth reading as the person is delusional
and full of hate. Sorry this idiot can't see that this bungled execution did not make the US look any good. Too bad this person wrote such garbage directed towards you. We're behind you Larissa and always will be for your good work (hope that helps).
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 02:52 PM
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36. So sorry that the truth bearers (like the ringbearer
Frodo) have to pay such a price.

How vile and insulting.

Keep fighting the good fight and remember what a beacon of light "raw" always provides us.
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