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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 05:22 AM
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Who's Afraid of a One-State Solution?
n light of the ongoing deadlock in Israeli-Palestinian peace talks, leaders such as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Israeli opposition leader Tzipi Livni have raised the specter of a one-state solution. Their intention, of course, is to scare some sense into Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his intransigent coalition partners. But, as this once-taboo idea becomes a legitimate part of political discussion in the region, some Israeli intellectuals are making the case that this is not something to fear, but a path toward a viable resolution to the region's long-running crisis.

The two-state solution has presented no shortage of obstacles: Negotiations are mired in talks about talks; the settlement policy is splintering what little territory was envisaged for the Palestinian state; and Israelis are becoming increasingly aware that the conflict doesn't stop at the Green Line, but emerges in varying shapes, including unprecedented racism and sectarian rioting within Israel proper. It's little wonder, then, that an increasing number of Israeli voices are beginning to inquire whether the one-state idea is more than just a bogeyman.

The one-state solution has long had advocates among the Palestinian diaspora, from Edward Said to Ghada Karmi and Ali Abunimah. However, there has recently been an exponential rise in mainstream Israeli media of articles that seriously consider the one-state arrangement. Trawling through the online archives of mainstream media, I found just three such articles from 2004 to 2007, but 16 pieces from 2008 to 2010. A 5,000-word essay by former Jerusalem Deputy Mayor Meron Benvenisti, arguing that the binational state is all but inevitable at this stage, was published in January and still sits atop Haaretz's most read and most emailed articles. Now comes the latest installment: sociologist Yehouda Shenhav's book The Time of the Green Line (or, in its Hebrew title, Trapped by the Green Line), released in February by the impeccably mainstream Am Oved publishing house.

Shenhav's book re-examines the very premises on which Israel and its allies perceive the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. He suggests that the dispute's fundamental problem is that most Israelis and Palestinians are using two different timelines, with conflicting conceptions of the conflict's "year zero." For centrist or left-wing Israelis, it is 1967: the year when the West Bank and Gaza were occupied and the hitherto small, democratic, idealistic Israel turned sour. "All that I'm trying to do is allow my grandchildren to live in this country as I lived in it during the quietest, most beautiful decade of its life -- 1957 to 1967," Shenhav quotes Yossi Beilin, an architect of the Oslo Accords and the Geneva Initiative, a private follow-up plan, as saying. For the Palestinians, Shenhav says, year zero remains 1948: the year of the mass expulsion of Arabs and the creation of a regime that systematically excluded them from meaningful participation in political and social life.

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http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2010/03/31/whos_afraid_of_a_one_state_solution
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 07:22 AM
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1. That's interesting. Thanks for posting it...
That book sounds like it might be worth reading...

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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 07:47 AM
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2. Cali, does a full reading of this have you thinking differently about a single state?
I hadn't considered the leftist (Ashkenazi) two-staters vision as a longing for a return to the mythic pre-67 days.

Very interesting quote from the article:

...the elite-oriented left fetishizes this era not due to its objections to Israeli incursion into Arab space, but because of the influx of Arabness, and the religious nationalism it elicited from Jews, into "civilized," Westernized Israel. For Shenhav, "the 'new nostalgia' longs for an Israel ruled by a secular, Jewish Ashkenazi regime," before the influx of Arabic-speaking Jews into the Israeli political space and that of Palestinian Arabs into Israelis' day-to-day lives. The fear of growing non-European influence in Israel, Shenhav argues, also motivates centrist, segregationist Israeli political trends, which support the separation wall and even unilateral Israeli withdrawal from the Palestinian territories exclusively to defuse Israel's "demographic time bomb."
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 09:04 AM
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3. well, I've been thinking differently about it for a while
the expansion of Occupation via the Settlements has made, as far as I can see, an equitable 2 state solution nigh on impossible. And Israel demonstrates no interest in taking the hard steps that would make it equitable. That said, I don't see how you get to a one state solution either.
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 09:20 AM
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4. I don't see how either, other than pressure through BDS.
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 10:09 AM
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5. Hmm, BDS or 1-state.....oh yeah, Israelis will DEFINITELY choose 1-state
:eyes:
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 10:56 AM
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6. The choice is between being an international pariah or providing full citizenship for all from the
Edited on Sat Apr-10-10 10:56 AM by ProgressiveMuslim
river to the sea.

What would a civilized nation choose?
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 12:09 PM
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8. BDS or Hamas/Fatah takeover and/or civil war, hmmm.....
Edited on Sat Apr-10-10 12:11 PM by shira
Fatah and Hamas can't even get along with each other and you expect they'll all get along with the 'Juice' in a democratic state?

:eyes:
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 12:25 PM
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9. Too bad you weren't born a century earlier in Savannah.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 12:07 PM
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7. A one state solution is a wonderful solution if Israelis were to fuck a lot
Edited on Sat Apr-10-10 12:08 PM by IndianaGreen
and I mean fuck every day! Israelis will have to beat the Palestinians when it comes to family sizes. The more one fucks, the happier everyone is (assuming that the fucking is geared towards the total sexual satisfaction of one's partner). Fucking is better than waging war or throwing rocks. Everyone must fuck! Make love not war!

Once the average size of Israeli families matches, or exceeds the size of Latino families in the US, will the Jewish character of the state be preserved.

So fuck to your hearts' content, boys and girls!

Now... what did I do with my meds?
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 12:26 PM
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10. what meds, Viagara? Lots of babies under siege in Gaza!
Edited on Sat Apr-10-10 12:29 PM by ProgressiveMuslim
However, of of the points of the article was also the Israeli elite/Ashkenazi yearn to return to the good old days when their culture ruled. Something tells me the baby-explosion won't be fueled by the Ashkenazi elite ...
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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 10:00 PM
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11. It already is a single state
has been for awhile now.
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