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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 06:57 PM Original message |
How to tell when a 'Mideast Expert' is lying |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
1. I would just go with |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 11:58 AM Response to Reply #1 |
31. Certainly that's the best way of telling when a British politician is lying! |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
2. Does the expert bring up the illegal Israeli settlements? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 07:19 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Oh no because when held up to those standards |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 07:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Transformation? We're one and the same! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 07:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 07:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. This is a Bradley Burston Op-Ed piece in Ha'aretz |
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aranthus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 08:14 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. It's part of a theme. |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 09:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Although the Palestinians drink from the same cup of guilt as the Israelis do |
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aranthus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 11:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. I agree with everything that you've written except |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 03:10 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. If they're against international law, they're illegal |
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aranthus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:23 PM Response to Reply #18 |
46. Except international law isn't law. |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 11:48 AM Response to Reply #12 |
29. Agreed. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 03:03 AM Response to Reply #9 |
17. It's the equation of "advocacy of a one-state solution" with "lying" |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 05:02 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. He has altered that statement |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 05:41 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. In that case, he's trying nto turn the "One State" question into a kind of McCarthyism |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 06:22 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. How so? |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 10:43 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. That's how I feel about Zionists who support the status quo but are ashamed to say so. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 11:01 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. I share that feeling |
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aranthus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 11:39 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I think that you are being generous. |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
5. sounds like duers |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 12:26 AM Response to Reply #5 |
15. +1 |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
6. Oh yes. The West is INUNDATED with pro-Palestinian "experts." I guess Zionists like Obie don't |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 08:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Diabolical? Despicable Propaganda? |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
13. oh, ok, now all One-Staters are liars... |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 04:58 AM Response to Reply #13 |
20. He changed it - the article no longer makes that claim |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 02:52 AM Response to Original message |
16. Why does advocacy of a One State Solution equate to LYING? |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 04:57 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. 6. The Expert advocates a One State Solution, but doesn't come out and say so. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 09:34 PM Response to Reply #19 |
32. Sure...he changed it...AFTER it had been out there for hours and hours |
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Dick Dastardly (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 11:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
43. The actual lie is the claim that the two state solution is no longer viable or |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 08:52 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. you mean like Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak and former Prime Minister Ehud Olmert |
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Dick Dastardly (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. That is false again, niether Olmert or Barak claimed that a Palestinian state is no longer viable or |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-10 02:33 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Olmert's Foreign Minister Livni tells France's Kouchner: I oppose Olmert's peace plan |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 05:32 AM Response to Original message |
22. In the spirit of the OP: How to Tell when a "Liberal" Zionist is lying |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 06:15 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. This is great - very artfully done! |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
30. I read the article differently from some people |
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Lithos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-13-10 11:39 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. blinkered... |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 07:09 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Wearing blinders. Only seeing a small part of the whole. Narrow-minded. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 07:22 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. They're blinkers, not blinders... |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 07:35 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Blinders, also known as blinkers, are a piece of horse tack that restrict the horse's vision |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 07:32 AM Response to Reply #30 |
37. It looks like Bradley Burston did revise the article after it was first posted here... |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 07:37 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Blinkers and Blinders are the same thing |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 07:43 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. That was one language difference I wasn't aware of before... |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 07:29 AM Response to Original message |
36. A way to discern when they are telling the truth would be more useful. nt |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 09:24 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. My thoughts exactly. I think this piece was disgusting. Everyone "here" lies? No they don't. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-14-10 10:22 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Number 6 was where it lost me. |
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