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Herschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 10:19 AM
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Israel's new fighter jets arrive in a "storm"
Two F-16I fighter jets landed at the Israeli Air Force's Ramon base in the Negev today, the first batch of a total of 102 planes Israel has ordered from the United States at a cost of over $4.5 billion. Named the Sufa (storm), the two-seater jets will form the backbone of the IAF and extend its long-arm reach throughout the Middle East. Much of the Sufa's advanced technology was developed for the plane by Israeli companies.

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http://web.israelinsider.com/bin/en.jsp?enPage=ArticlePage&enDisplay=view&enDispWhat=object&enDispWho=Article%5El3328&enZone=Security&enVersion=0&

Wonderful news. The partnership between America and Israel continues to reap a great harvest. Enemies of Israel take note.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 10:28 AM
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1. Sounds like a great plane-Range includes targets in Iran and Libya

The Sufa jet has an unrefueled combat strike radius well in excess of 500 miles. The extended flight range enables the IAF to attack targets well within Iran and Libya without having to refuel.

The Sufa is powered by the Pratt and Whitney F100-PE-229 Improved Performance Engine. The aircraft is designed for gross takeoff gross weight of 23,582 kilograms (52,000 lbs), which means it can haul more weaponry than the F-16. The weapons engineer, sitting behind the pilot, "flies the bombs" down to the targets once they are released.

The Sufa has been customized with new avionic technologies, internally mounted FLIR (forward looking infrared) viewers, and cutting edge weapon system hardware provided by the Israeli defense company Lahav - a division of Israel Aircraft Industries.

The Lahav technology will allow for simultaneous, multi-target air-to-air engagement and increased standoff and survivability capabilities. The F-16I has been earmarked to receive the new Python 5 imaging infrared-guided high agility air-to-air missile produced by Rafael, the former Israeli Armaments Development Authority.
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 10:32 AM
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2. I wonder how many they would be able to buy...
if we weren't supporting them?

In other words, they get 'em, we pay for 'em.
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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 10:32 AM
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3. murder incorporated

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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 10:42 AM
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4. You are mistaken
This is not a thread about the endless stream of Palestinian terrorists.
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Herschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 12:29 PM
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5. Well said
The comment previous to yours is slanderous.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 12:45 PM
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6. Or maybe its author just took a wrong turn.
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 08:26 PM
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18. Would't it be Libel?
But for it to be either, the statement would hve to be untrue.
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Noon_Blue_Apples Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 04:21 PM
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7. Exactly

it is about the endless stream of Israeli terrorists being supplied by an endless stream of American terrorist financing.

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sweetcee Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 06:54 PM
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10. Let's see
anti-American

anti-Israel

How about living in an Arab country for a while and see how much you enjoy it?

How about the Bushes' fave: Saudi Arabia; you wouldn't even have to put up with women driving!
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Noon_Blue_Apples Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 04:26 PM
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8. "continues to reap a great harvest"

"The partnership between America and Israel continues to reap a great harvest"

and what great harvest would that be?

corpses, both Israeli and Palestinian?

A continual harvest of death should not be wonderful news. At least not to those who actually face the reality in the region.

But many in the west fail to comprehend what life for all in the region is.

it is not wonderful.

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sweetcee Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 06:55 PM
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11. Quite prescient!
"But many in the west fail to comprehend what life for all in the region is."

However, if one reads history and a variety of sources, one finds it easy to comprehend.
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Flagg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 05:05 PM
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9. great news

Palestinian children, beware!!!!!
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sweetcee Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 06:56 PM
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12. I know!
When Hamas or Al Aqsa or Hezbollah hides among them or teaches them to martyr themselves, it's just awful, isn't it?
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drewb Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 07:10 PM
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13. Be glad!
I am so "Be GLAD!"

:loveya:
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 04:14 AM
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14. Good
Hopefully Israel uses them to finally eliminate Hamas and Islamic Jihad.
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Flagg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 06:02 AM
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15. yeah it's that simple of course
Edited on Sat Feb-21-04 06:05 AM by Flagg
why hasn't anyone thought about it before ?
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 07:21 AM
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16. LOL
There are obviously other things that need to be done but force is the primary tool in fighting Palestinian terrorism. Israel should not be restrained when it comes to its defense by the USA.
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 08:28 PM
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19. If the current policy of killing hasn't stopped them
then a fancier plane won't either.
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Comadreja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 12:26 PM
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17. Colonization
This is what colonization requires: blood soaked sand, holy earth defiled with death, human sacrifice.

www.palsolidarity.org read more (8513 characters)

Quote: Occupation destroys Israel.
Wednesday, Mar, 05 2003 (submitted: Mar, 06 2003) By Peace Now, Israeli peace group
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 09:02 PM
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20. I really doubt their ability to strike Iran
Edited on Sat Feb-21-04 09:04 PM by wuushew
Range includes targets in Iran and Libya
The Sufa jet has an unrefueled combat strike radius well in excess of 500 miles. The extended flight range enables the IAF to attack targets well within Iran and Libya without having to refuel.





Distance between 30:50:00N 34:40:00E and 34:05:00N 49:41:00E, as the crow flies:
904 miles (1456 km) (786 nautical miles)


Initial heading from 30:50:00N 34:40:00E to 34:05:00N 49:41:00E:
east-northeast (71.7 degrees)
Initial heading from 34:05:00N 49:41:00E to 30:50:00N 34:40:00E:
west (259.8 degrees)
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