George W. Bush does not DESERVE to be impeached...

[Rick Myers]

Impeachment only makes sense to a sane man. George W. Bush is NOT a sane man. The 25th Amendment to the Constitution applies, he is psychotic. And the VP is NOT medically-stable to assume the office. Guess what? Madame President????

Wouldn't it be COOL if we were a Nation of Laws, and not tiny, tiny MEN?

[babylonsister]

1. I'd settle for arrested. nt

[BlueStateModerate]

7. No way

That sets a horrible precedent. Impeached? Sure, but that doesn't need to be a priority. Once a president is arrested, the Republicans could use the same trick on an unpopular Democrat. Remember that Constitution thingy? It's there for a reason.

[babylonsister]

9. I don't know; shouldn't traitors be arrested and tried, regardless of

political persuasion?

[BlueStateModerate]

15. It's not about political persuasion

It's about political position. If the president were arrested (which is clearly unconstitutional), that sets up a situation where any president could be arrested based on what people viewed as unconstitutional. If arresting the president in such a situation were allowed, anti-New Dealers and those against Japanese internment probably would have had FDR in cuffs for his breaks with the Constitution. There's a political process to remove the president for a reason.

[Jack Rabbit]

21. I challenge that

If the president were arrested (which is clearly unconstitutional), that sets up a situation where any president could be arrested based on what people viewed as unconstitutional.

I will agree that no one should be arrested just because somebody else thinks he has acted unconstitutionally, but show me a clause in the Constitution that shows the President cannot be arrested. Please.

I check back later for your reply.

[BlueStateModerate]

22. Woops

My bad. I was under the impression that the president must first be impeached, then charged, but I couldn't find any support for that. Why was Nixon not immediately tried by a criminal court then?

[Jack Rabbit]

23. Nixon had put out some BS that it was unconstitutional

One of the stories -- I don't know how much is urban legend and how mush is fact -- is that the grand jury indicted Nixon, but Jaworsky got them to back off so he wouldn't have to face the court challenges.

There is congressional immunity in the Consitution. That prevents the President (the chief executive) from harassing Congressmen who are not supporting his programs and are investigating him or his aides. It's hardly harassment if the President's own justice department seeks criminal charges against him.

ON EDIT

Thank you for looking it up. Thirty-two years ago I had the same argument with die hard Republicans who just repeated Nixon's talking points without bothing to look.

[leesa]

25. It's about crime.

[Zhade]

29. So if the president commits murder, it's unConstitutional to arrest him?

What planet are you surfing DU on?

[Gman]

11. Clinton's impeachment was nothing but revenge for Nixxon's overthrow

Nixxon was completely guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors and even the GOP representatives knew it and acknowledged it. It wasn't no lying about a blowjob bullshit. The thing is these people really don't care about the law. they do whatever it takes. So arrest bush/cheney et al and turn 'em all over to the International Criminal Court for trial and punishment.

Better yet, give them the same kind of "fair trial" Saddam got.

[BlueStateModerate]

16. Yeah, good call

Let's outsource our political sovereignty as well as our economy. That's a great way to maintain the last strands of our Constitution.

[Gman]

28. "Outsource our political sovereignty"??

what are you afraid of? You sound like international law is a bad thing. If Bush/Cheney et al have committed crimes against the world, it should be the world that handles their trials. Are you one of those "kick the UN out of the US" types? Do you honestly believe Bush/Cheney et al would even go to trial here? Does that mean they have done nothing wrong and should not be punished?

[Monkeyman]

2. Agree Big TIME

[az chela]

3. I would love to see him and all his buddies in a chain gang

[snowbear]

4. I think we need to leave his ass in the middle of Anbar Province...

.. with no Green Zones, no plastic turkeys, no military protection, and NO WAY HOME.

Let him live out his remaining days seeing for himself what he created ----> http://icasualties.org/oif/

[Rick Myers]

5. Nekkid, with a tattoo front and back reading: Hi, I'm George Bush!

:grr:

[snowbear]

6. Yeah, that too !!!

[Jack Rabbit]

24. In Englsih and Arabic

very important, that.

[babylonsister]

8. Damn, where'd you find that smiley?

:rofl:
And I like your idea, though his remaining days might not be so many there, which I guess is the point.

[snowbear]

13. Go here babylon...

..for smilies > http://www.cosgan.de/smilie.php

It's in Germany, but you can click on "english" if you need to change what a talking smiley is saying.

There are tons of them and they are free!!! Plus, they have a smilie generator so you can create your own!

See:

[babylonsister]

14. Thanks so much! nt

[snowbear]

17. Babylon..

And make sure you click on all three of the selections at the top of the page.. (smilies, midis, kaos) then click on ALL of those categories off to the left side.

You'll have so many smilies you won't believe it!!!!

p.s. that goes to anyone here looking for cool smilies..


And to keep this thread on track -- BUSH SUCKS, send his ass to Iraq NOW!

[babylonsister]

19. Thanks for the tips! I love using smilies but haven't seen too many

interesting ones. Except yours, so thanks for sharing!

[bdamomma]

that's a good idea, let's see if that wakes him up, he and Cheney

can go to assess the ground activity, since they don't listen to the Generals!!!!!

[bdamomma]

27. that's a good idea, let's see if that wakes him up, he and Cheney

can go to assess the ground activity, since they don't listen to the Generals!!!!!

[Doctor_J]

10. he can plead insanity at his trial

throw himself on the mercy of the court. If all goes well, when he's on the stand, he can wimper "please don't impeach me" and Karla Faye Tucker can get a good laugh wherever she is.

[Robson]

12. Wait Until He Is Out Of Office

My suggestion is to wait until GW Bush is out of office. Then jump on him and Cheney with the full force of the DOJ with retroactive hearings, as would be done with every other commoner and citizen who has no "power of office".

No politics, no wasted time in Congress, no more bringing out his supporters for the vote. Just wait until 2009.

[Imagevision]

18. Bush being impeached does sound sweet though, great exit if they too punked

to not bring him up on war crimes.

[Cleita]

20. It would be nice if Congress invoked the 25th ammendment.

It would make things easier. Although, it would also let him and Cheney off scott free. I think they need to be impeached, sentenced and imprisoned as an example to any other would be dictators who want to wage perpetual war.

[bdamomma]

26. this man needs to lead away and to be committed to a Medical

facility, he is a threat to us all.