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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 11:37 AM
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Who Is * Listening To In Order To Come To The Conclusion An Escalation Is The Way To Go.....
Since late last year all we heard was that * was talking to everyone in order to provide him with the info he needs to make his decision as to how to proceed in Iraq. Now we hear that tomorrow he will call for an 'escalation' and send in more troops. If everyone - including generals on the ground; former generals that were involved in the conflict previously; other military advisors; congress and the people - is against this 'escalation' who was he listening to?

Who still supports this?

I know McCain is touting even more of a troop buildup. But * doesn't listen to McCain.

So is this all coming from the NeoCons? Cheney? PNACer's? Oil companies? Corporate America?
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 11:39 AM
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1. NeoCons; Cheney; PNACer's; Oil companies; Corporate America
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 11:39 AM
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2. The war profiteers
and a few military brass who will likely be working for the war profiteers in the near future.

It's alchemy. They turn blood into gold.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 11:39 AM
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3. PNAC, Frederick Kagan. Here's a link to his "plan" -
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 11:42 AM
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4. fat fuck freddie
a chip off the old block
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 11:43 AM
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5. It's all about not being wrong
If Bush can draw this out until the next person takes the office of president he will never be seen (in his mind) as having mucked up everything in Iraq. It's all about salvaging his ego. He is willing to sacrifice our sons and daughters for his ego.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 11:43 AM
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6. The profiteering military-industrial complex which Eisenhower warned of.
nt
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 07:37 PM
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14. I agree, it's definitly the military-industrial complex

Generals On the ground are frotmen until they go against the President...then they will resign, retire or be replaced!
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 11:44 AM
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7. Why, he listens to 'his' generals!
And he'll keep listening until they tell him something he wants to hear. And if they don't tell him what he wants to hear, he'll fire them and find someone who will.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 11:46 AM
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8. I think this explains it
I posted a lengthy post on "blogger" but the site is down for a while.....

here's what Bush is apparently listening to and gambling on:

http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=26080

and a snip

At the same time, it would not be unusual to find that support for the president's probable call for more troops in Iraq -- once the proposed policy shift is made public -- will be higher than this baseline minimum. This assumption is based on the fact that the action will no longer be hypothetical, but will have the institutional weight of the presidency behind it after the Wednesday night speech. A surge will, in essence, have become the stated policy of the country. It is particularly likely that Republicans will increase their support for the policy after the president's announcement.

snip from DemfromCT at The Next Hurrah
http://thenexthurrah.typepad.com/the_next_hurrah/
But as Gallup clearly shows today, the only part of the American population that is interested in giving Bush another chance is the republican base... and that's so small as to be properly considered a third of the electorate at most:


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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 11:48 AM
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9. USA ME war policy is formulated by the military industrial complex,......
big oil and energy, wall street, american neocons and Israeli neocons.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 11:50 AM
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10. I have asked that over and over
who is advising bush. He is too damn stupid to come up with all this himself.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 12:04 PM
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11. Military experts, limbaugh, hannity, savage, coulter, o'lielly
They have a combined total of zero seconds service to our country but they know everything about anything.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 01:07 PM
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12. the mafia on steroids...
with a shit-load of families and dons, independent and inter-locked by their wealth and their assets.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 07:00 PM
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13. His gut!
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 07:39 PM
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15. Bush clearly isn't listening to any general anywhere!
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 08:07 PM
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16. Two words: Henry Kissinger
He's ignoring almost everyone else...at least everyone who doesn't tell him all about his "great legacy"

Of course, he's also listening to Deadeye
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 08:23 PM
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17. Himself, as usual
He has obviously decided long ago that he would escalate rather than be seen as a loser. So he got crushed at the polls. Obviously didn't change his mind or his tactics. If he is consulting with anyone, its probably about how to sell the escalation.
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 08:31 PM
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18. I read this yesterday:
Bush to send some 20,000 more troops to Iraq: senator

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070108/pl_nm/iraq_bush_senator_dc

snip>>>>
"It was clear to me that a decision has been made for a surge of, I suppose, 20,000 additional troops," Sen. Gordon Smith (news, bio, voting record) of Oregon told reporters in a telephone conference call after a White House meeting.

Smith said the president had told him and several other senators that the plan for the additional troops had originated with Iraq's Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki. Maliki had made commitments that the Iraqi government and military would take steps to strengthen security in exchange for more U.S. troops, Smith said
<<<<<<

Could be bull shit. One thing is for sure, we will never know the truth.


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