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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 10:02 PM
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Bush* is on the defensive this is a good thing!
Edited on Fri Feb-13-04 10:30 PM by sistersofmercy
Releasing military records, arrest records,trust me this is a good thing, we've got them on the run, on the defensive, where we need them to be. We need to frame this debate. No matter who gets the the nod, it's the best way, we need the GOP on the defensive, it's the best way to win the public debate now and in in fall. LET'S KEEP THEM ON THE RUN!
WOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO! Be Offensive to the squatter* in the WH!
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 10:07 PM
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1. It seems to me that this has never happened before.
The Bushies have wiggled off everything-Enron, 9-11, etc. without ever before being forced onto the defensive in any major way. This means that they're in new territory. Rove has never played this kind of game before. Maybe we can expect some major-league f**kups on their part.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 10:29 PM
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7. Oh I think so!
Dem candidates and supporters have traditionally not fought back too hard and that has changed. We're not just fighting back this time, we're firing at them. We need to keep firing at them to beat them at their own game, take no prisoners.
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MurikanDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 10:08 PM
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2. Here's another: White House admits Bush lied in 2002 SOTU
Friday, February 13th, 2004
White House Admits Bush Lied in 2002 State of The Union Over Al Qaeda Obtaining U.S. Nuke Plant Plans

President Bush claimed in his 2002 State of the Union address that the U.S. discovered in Afghanistan detailed plans of U.S. nuclear plants. The Bush administration was forced to admit this week that the claim was not based on factual evidence after the Nuclear Regulatory Commission said there was no evidence any such plans were found in Afghanistan.
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The Bush administration has been forced this week to admit that one of the most explosive claims of President Bush's 2002 State of the Union address was not based on factual evidence.
Bush claimed that the U.S. has discovered in Afghanistan detailed plans of U.S. nuclear plants. On Monday night the White House told the Wall Street Journal that Bush's statement admitted no such plans had ever been found.

This story has resurfaced this month after a commissioner on the Nuclear Regulatory Commission responded to an inquiry of Greenpeace and that the NRC was aware of no evidence that diagrams of nuclear plants had been found in Afghanistan.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/02/13/1549215
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 10:34 PM
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8. Yes, and one by one the lies and deception will unfurl, they know it and
if we keep on task, everyone will know it.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 10:08 PM
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3. Unless George just blows something up.
I really get nervous when his ratings are this low.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 10:48 PM
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12. Why?
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ChompySnack Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 10:09 PM
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4. F-Yeah!!!
I am so damn sick and tired of Democrats being pushed around. Like our values don't matter to society. Make them pay and expose all the lies that build this false reality that we are being forced to live in through deception and secrecy.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 10:35 PM
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9. Damn straight!
We are the good guys and we must always remember that!
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Dennis Quaranta Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 10:10 PM
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5. The Shirkin' George Song
What we need now is a popular song called "Shirkin' George" about everything Bush has gotten away with. Some people used to think this was an engaging bit of roguishness about him.

Then it got deadly. Bush started getting us into wars based on trumped-up reasons. Then it wasn't funny anymore. People started asking questions about the wars and about Bush's own past. Bush bobbed and weaved, the way he always does. In the end, people were left with the impression that Bush Jr. doesn't have enough character to be president of the United States.

Shirkin' George . . . wasn't elected fair and square

Shirkin' George . . . didn't go to Nam

Shirkin' George . . . he's a big phony

That's why they call him Shirkin' George, he's a phony and a shirker


Yes, it needs work, but it's a promising beginning.


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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 10:44 PM
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10. Trust me...
History will remember him for the lyin' conniviin' mental shrimp that he is. We need to make sure people kno it to a certain degree now.
Good start of a song btw. Shirkin' George*...didn't go to Nam
Shirkin' George*...speaks english, I don't understand.
Shirkin' George*...he's a Huckleberry Finn
Shirkin' George*...won't steel the White House again. Best I can do for now. :)
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 10:26 PM
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6. Careful, what doesn't kill him could leave us weaker...
Anyone who has visited Du in the past 3 years realizes that we have the goods on many of Bush's lies and manipulations...

BUT, we only get to use these ONCE, sort of like using a muzzle loading rifle to shoot a charging rhino. You have to time the shot very well. The information will have shock value only once.

Frankly, the effect will be to get big primary turnouts and a dip in Bush's positives, for the practical purpose of changing the seat of power that is almost harmless. Sort of like shooting when the rhino is out of range.

At this point its hard to expect these issues to be sustained by the population until election day in November without some sort of formal hearing or grand jury proceedings to drag things along toward September and October. At that point these things could change the way people vote in the GE.

It's too easy for Rove to stage/manipulate a terrorist capture or interruption of a terror plot. Such an event would wash away any 8 month old stains of scandel.





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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 10:47 PM
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11. Yes but these issue would not have played in the GE but they're
playing well now. There will be more to come this just sets the tone.
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