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SinkingInTheRain Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 11:55 PM
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Do we really want this man as our next president?
(Audiotape, April 18, 1971):

MR. CROSBY NOYES (Washington Evening Star): Mr. Kerry, you said at one time or another that you think our policies in Vietnam are tantamount to genocide and that the responsibility lies at all chains of command over there. Do you consider that you personally as a Naval officer committed atrocities in Vietnam or crimes punishable by law in this country?

SEN. KERRY: There are all kinds of atrocities, and I would have to say that, yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed in that I took part in shootings in free fire zones. I conducted harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50 calibre machine guns, which we were granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon against people. I took part in search and destroy missions, in the burning of villages. All of this is contrary to the laws of warfare, all of this is contrary to the Geneva Conventions and all of this is ordered as a matter of written established policy by the government of the United States from the top down. And I believe that the men who designed these, the men who designed the free fire zone, the men who ordered us, the men who signed off the air raid strike areas, I think these men, by the letter of the law, the same letter of the law that tried Lieutenant Calley, are war criminals.

(End audiotape)
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 11:56 PM
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1. And you are...?
*ahem*

Why, yes. Yes, I do.
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aldian159 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 11:57 PM
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2. Who, Crosby Noyes?
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 11:58 PM
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3. You have to post a link
or this will be locked.

BTW, you weren't one of those guys petitioning for Kerry to be charged as a war criminal today, were you?
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SinkingInTheRain Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 12:00 AM
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8. The audio is well documented
I don't have the link but I can get it pronto.
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ALago1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 11:58 PM
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4. You mean...
Edited on Wed Feb-18-04 11:59 PM by ALago1
A man who served his country in hopes of doing something positive, yet upon being manipulated by higher authority powers, remained honest and tried to do the right thing upon his return home?

No, I don't think those are good qualities...
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bornskeptic Donating Member (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 11:58 PM
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5. Absloutely
Would you like it better if he'd lied?
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 11:58 PM
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6. that would make a compelling GOP commercial
and some people ask "what baggage ?".
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 12:02 AM
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10. You think war crimes were not documented in Vietnam? Think again n/t
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 12:00 AM
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7. I absolutely do. look at his conscience as a young man.
he knew the army was put in untenable position, and he was going to speak out about it. His leadership in rooting out government corruption over his years in the senate is proof he stood by his sentiment.

We should imagine that Bush has put young Army men and women in precarious positions regarding ethical situation on the ground in Iraq and Mr. Kerry undoubtedly would have handled things much better.

Kerry is a real hero. He is a man, granted. He has imperfections, but he will serve our nation proudly and with honor as president.

Thanks for asking. Next question.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 12:01 AM
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9. Do we really want this man to be president?
George Bush: "Is our children learning?"

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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 12:02 AM
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11. locked
this needs a link. Please review the rules for posting in GD2K4 before posting in GD2K4.

Thanks
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