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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 12:23 PM
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Breaking News!Just In!
Edited on Sun Dec-30-07 12:35 PM by Hope And Change
Just in on the Fox channel

Des Moines Register Poll

Barack Obama 37%
Hillary Clinton 26%
John Edwards 20%

sorry I have no link
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 12:24 PM
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1. Oh MAN! I hope that's accurate!
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 12:28 PM
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I hope too but if not then you know who to hang.
:P
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 12:57 PM
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13. So where'd ya see it?
Edited on Sun Dec-30-07 12:59 PM by zidzi
And this with the "Labor Unions in Iowa backing hillary".. I hope so!

Never mind..I just saw where it was faux.
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:19 PM
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18. zidzi, I read it on the Obama blog.Some people watched Fox News..
today and saw the new DMR poll.But let`s wait if someone else could confirm this.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:36 PM
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21. Thanks! Hope And Change~
Yeah, we're gonna see if the people who get to decide our candidate want Hope and Change, too, or just the same ol' "scare 'em into submission" drivel.
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:48 PM
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28. Could you give a link to the blog then?
Sorry, but I don't believe this. Why would it be on Fox before its on their site?
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 02:02 PM
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34. There you go...
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 02:21 PM
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37. Doesn't seem too reliable
The guy says he was doing something else when it flashed on the screen. And he says Yepsen confirmed it, but the transcript has nothing about it.
I guess we'll find out, but I highly doubt this is the actual result of the poll.
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 02:29 PM
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41. Figured it out - these are numbers from the last Iowa poll
Edited on Sun Dec-30-07 02:29 PM by maximusveritas
"The same Iowa Poll showed Obama receiving the most support from new caucusgoers, with 37 percent supporting him, followed by 26 percent for Clinton and 20 percent for Edwards."
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071230/NEWS09/712300330/-1/SPORTS12
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 02:32 PM
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42. Thanks for clarifiying that.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 02:49 PM
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47. From Dec 2nd? Thanks for doing the research, mv.
MKJ
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 12:25 PM
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2. I have to tamp down my hopes on this one
Please please please. :scared:
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 12:26 PM
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3. What do you suppose is causing all this poll drama...
among the top-3?

I suppose there's a ton of local advertising and volunteerism and stumping and media coverage that we don't really get a taste of outside of Iowa.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 12:28 PM
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4. Latest poll on CNN
Edwards 24
Clinton 23
Obama 22

It's going to come down to a photo finish, I think.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 12:28 PM
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5. ouch. s--t.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 12:29 PM
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6. Fox News as a source?
:wtf:

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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 12:44 PM
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8. A pattern emerges.
The OP recently linked to a RW smear website in an anti-Sen. Clinton OP yesterday.

Thankfully, the mods were on it and it was deleted.

So, per his record, FAUX is probably liberally biased. :-) MKJ
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 12:49 PM
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9. What you also forgot to say that I also apologized and alerted myself..
to ask the Mods to delete my thread because I couldn`t edit my thread.After a certain time you can`t edit your post.If you don`t believe me ask others who saw my posts in that thread.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 12:50 PM
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10. I saw that, the question though is why did you think that was a credible source to begin with?
Edited on Sun Dec-30-07 01:07 PM by BleedingHeartPatriot
MKJ

on edit, and the apology and alert was only forthcoming after many DU'ers, several of whom are supporters of other candidates than Sen Clinton, called out the site.

Second edit, following that incident with a post touting FAUX as a source just reinforces what appears to be a pattern.
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 12:53 PM
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11. Well, it was a mistake of my part because I posted it in a hurry ...
Edited on Sun Dec-30-07 12:54 PM by Hope And Change
I had to go.Didn`t check out the source.Will be more careful the next time.What more do you want from me?

Remember I`m pretty new here.Try to have patience with me.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 12:56 PM
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12. How is that you even landed there? Being new isn't a reason to explain your
belief that site has any credibility.

MKJ
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 12:58 PM
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14. Obviously you didn`t read my post.Do you want me to write with big letters..
Edited on Sun Dec-30-07 01:00 PM by Hope And Change
to understand?

Feel free to have the last word.


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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:01 PM
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15. The fact that you used a slime article from a far RW whacko website as an OP and then
Edited on Sun Dec-30-07 01:02 PM by BleedingHeartPatriot
quoted FAUX as a credible source the next day, is the only thing upon which I'm remarking.

MKJ

on edit, spelling
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:06 PM
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16. Easy, you must have woken on the wrong side today...
let`s wait before someone else can confirm it.I didn`t see this personally.I saw it on the Obama blog.In any case, polls are not to be trusted but the last time the DMR poll got it right in 2004, if I remember correctly but not sure...

You really have to chill out dude...

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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:38 PM
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22. Give it a rest
This is a newbie who made a mistake yesterday, has apologized repeatedly, and may have posted prematurely out of excitement today. I was one who pointed out yesterday about carefully checking sources before posting. But I see no reason for keeping the suspicion going this way.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 02:23 PM
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39. And, yet, after your kind response and suggestion
Edited on Sun Dec-30-07 02:27 PM by BleedingHeartPatriot
an un sourced poll, allegedly DMR, from FAUX was posted.

I've searched the DMR site multiple times, it's nowhere to be found.

Has this penultimate poll been posted anywhere else? MKJ

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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:42 PM
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23. Oh give it a rest. I've seen much worse posted from His44
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 02:19 PM
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36. dude, chill the f out
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 10:23 PM
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51. You're forgiven. Welcome to the snake pit.
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 02:01 PM
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33. it's not a Fox News poll its a D-Register Poll, Fox News just reported it
anyway, its going to come down to the wire and I dont trust any of these polls as much as I hope this is right.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 12:29 PM
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7. Very good website for caucus info:
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=caucus
Quite a bit better than watching FOX, imo.
Nothing re the OP's poll yet.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:07 PM
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17. I don't see that on the DMR website or any of the political websites.
This doesn't make much sense.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:32 PM
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20. Yepsen probably leaked it
David Yepsen, the Register's political writer, was on Chris Matthew's show this morning. He probably slipped the numbers to Fox.

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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:22 PM
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19. BS
Maybe among republicans.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:43 PM
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25. Sour Grapes Much?
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:46 PM
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27. No, I'm in California
We don't have sour grapes. Maybe some raisins, but they aren't sour either.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:43 PM
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24. Is there a link yet?
If this is real, might as well wright it down. The last DMR poll is scary accurate.
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:44 PM
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26. write
n/t
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:49 PM
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29. Thanks super duper grammar patrol
Edited on Sun Dec-30-07 01:50 PM by Wolsh
Why don't you worry less about my spelling, and more about adding something productive to the conversation?
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:52 PM
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30. Like a BS poll with no link
How is that productive?
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:57 PM
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32. This is a huge poll. If these numbers are correct when the poll is officially release, history...
says that this is the running order.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 02:14 PM
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35. How do we know that these numbers are correct?
Has it been confirmed anywhere else?

MKJ
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 02:22 PM
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38. We don't yet, but we should know soon enough.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 09:35 AM
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49. Well, now we know, they're entirely inaccurate.
MKJ
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:52 PM
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31. Who even watches Fox? That filthy channel is off limits & my remote is programmed to skip it.
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 02:29 PM
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40. No wai!
Hope those numbers are correct
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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 02:34 PM
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43. That's cool, if it's true!
But, then again, this is Iowa and I really don't trust any polls until the end of the day on Jan. 3.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 02:34 PM
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44. Extremely odd compared to this new poll...
Associated Press
Iowa Extremely Tight for Dems, GOP
By The Associated Press 12.30.07, 11:31 AM ET
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/12/30/ap4481653.html

THE RACE: The presidential race for Democrats, Republicans in Iowa

THE NUMBERS - DEMOCRATS

John Edwards, 24 percent

Hillary Rodham Clinton, 23 percent

Barack Obama, 22 percent

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3909053
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 02:37 PM
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46. Thanks; an actual LINK to a real Poll
Not like the one made up in the OP's head.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 02:37 PM
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45. Those numbers are among "First Time Caucus Goers" from the previous DMR poll
Edited on Sun Dec-30-07 03:01 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
the source of the OP was a blog entry refering to the previous poll, saying:

"The poll shows that Obama receives 37% support of 1st time caucus goers with Clinton at 26% and Edwards at 20%."

Understandable error. No biggie.
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 03:00 PM
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48. booooo.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 10:20 PM
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50. grrrrrr. *cries*
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