Iowa, I challenge you to think for yourselves and reject the MSM's annointed trio.

[MethuenProgressive]

Iowans, you can be lazy and just rubberstamp one of the media darlings.
Or you can make History.
Your choice!

Joe Biden:
http://www.joebiden.com /
http://biden.senate.gov/index.cfm

Chris Dodd:
http://chrisdodd.com /
http://www.youtube.com/user/SenatorDodd

Dennis Kucinich:
http://www.dennis4president.com /
http://www.youtube.com/denniskucinich

Bill Richardson:
www.2013IsTooLate.com
www.TheDifferenceOnIraq.com
www.richardsonforpresident.com

C'mon, Iowa - show your caucus *is* significant, and not to be forgotten in a week's time!

[flvegan]

1. Oooh...

:popcorn:

[Kucinich4America]

FUCK the corporations FUCK the coronations FUCK the whore media FUCK the DLC

Take this all the way to Denver. Maybe we'll get lucky and the delegates will have to "settle" for this guy.....



Wouldn't that just be terrible..........

[MalloyLiberal]

7. Give it up pottymouth

[Kucinich4America]

9. FUCK no!

I'll stop cussing when the goddamned Constitution is fucking restored under an ACTUAL Democratic President in the White House.

If you actually were a Mike Malloy fan (as opposed to - I'm guessing here - Sean Hannity) you would understand that. Mike and I are on the same page there, except I'm not bound by FCC regulations.

[MalloyLiberal]

10. Ha

You have no proof I'm a "Sean Hannity fan". I'm a Malloy fan. So suck it.

[Kucinich4America]

16. If you're a Malloy fan

I'm a Hillary fan.

[MalloyLiberal]

20. Wondered why you were so vicious

[ronnykmarshall]

32. Kids, kids, kids! Now settle down.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3914059

[CoffeeCat]

2. I'm in Iowa...

...and I believe that generally, we are looking at all of the candidates and putting them
through the wringer.

Dennis Kucinich has not run a campaign here, so it is highly unlikely that he will fare well.

I've seen all of the candidates now. I've read their literature and listened to the phone calls.

The top two candidates, in my book--are Obama and Edwards--based on what I've seen and heard.
They've run the most amazing, organized, highly creative campaigns. Their energy and enthusiasm
is amazing and they've inspired many Iowa supporters--who create additional buzz.

It's not that we aren't looking at the second-tier candidates. We are. I believe that Biden
and Richardson have enjoyed positive polls lately.

I'd also like to add that Iowa has tested Hillary and I believe she's massively flunked. Who
knows what will happen on caucus night. Some of it actually depends on the weather (bad weather
helps Edwards; good weather helps Hillary). However, she has run a dirty, impersonal, Rovian
campaign in this state. She arrived with her "inevitability" in tow. When we demanded, "Show
us what you've got", there really was no there there. She planted questions and followed a very
impersonal, speech-and-preach campaign model that felt disingenuous and staged.

Her Iowa polls have tanked as a result. I'd like to think it's because this caucus process has
kicked her slimy tactics and orchestrated fakery to the curb.

In a sense, I think Iowans have done a pretty good job of testing these candidates.

I can't imagine Hillary coming in any better than 3rd. 4th place would not surprise me. That in itself,
would be a victory, in my book. This campaign started with the MSM telling us to just lie down and
take for granted a Hillary nomination. I don't think that Iowans did that.

We shall see though. Four days and counting.

[Evergreen Emerald]

3. I hope Clinton does well in Iowa. She would make such a great President

I do understand that she expected not to win in Iowa. I know Bill Clinton did not win. In fact when he running, he did not win any of the first states. So, that will not shut her out.

But, there has been such ugliness and disinformation that is simply distortions. Her record of working for people is simply awesome. She has worked so hard for America, I hope she does well.

And to come in second or third with all of the negative campaigning and pile-on of nearly every media outlet, would be a victory.

[CoffeeCat]

6. The only victory for America...

...will be if Hillary Clinton is eliminated from this process, because Americans
finally said NO to the MSM shoving her "inevitability" down their throats.

You act as if Hillary has climbed an unfair mountain of challenges. How absurd.

Most of the other candidates were barely mentioned before the Iowa caucus season started.
CNN and network media touted Hillary as the "inevitable" candidate. If Edwards and Obama
were mentioned at all, they were not leveraged as Hillary was. Hillary had significant
unfair advantage, as her stooges in the corporate media acted as her personal PR firm.

Comparing the political experiences of Bill and Hillary is bizarre. Bill was an unknown
governor of a small state. He started out as an underdog with no one leveraging him. He
came out of the shadows. Hillary, on the other hand---began this campaign as a corporate-media
champion. She's enjoyed the fruits of the glaring spotlight and the media positioning her
as the front runner. If anything, her experience is the opposite of Bill's. She was given
every advantage and enjoyed front-runner status and then she tanked. Bill began at zero
and gained significant advantage as voters got closer to him. The more they saw of Bill, the
more his polls climbed. The opposite can be said of Hillary. She entered Iowa with high
polls, and has tanked as we've gotten a closer look.

As for negative campaigning, I'm in Iowa--and there has been hardly ANY negative campaigning.
There has not been ONE television attack ad from any Dem candidate. This has been a clean campaign.
A few barbs and one liners have been traded, but this is a political campaign, not the ballet.
No candidate can falsely claim that they were unfairly attacked, because there was no concerted,
negative attacks in this state whatsoever.

If anything, Hillary has been the one with the dirty tricks up her silk sleeves. Planting
questions, screeching at an Iowan and accusing him of being a "plant" because she didn't like
his question about Kyl/Lieberman. Then, two of Hillary's staffers quit due to their dirty
tricks and rumor-mongering about Obama. Biden, Dodd, Edwards, Obama and Richardson have engaged in
NOTHING remotely like this. You prop up Hillary with such lofty delusions.


As for Hillary "working for the people", she has sure worked for the warmongers and the
corporations, I'll give you that. If you like an exacerbating Middle-East war, she's your gal.
And yep, if you want big pharma, big banking and big energy to exert more influence than
"We The People", she has worked damn hard for them--lining their pockets and making back-door
deals that enrich the CEOs. What a hard worker she is.

I hope she tanks, and it looks like she will. She deserves it. She's an empty pantsuit and she
has run an uninspiring, dirty campaign that is not worthy of one single vote.

[MethuenProgressive]

11. Sparkles, then why is she polling so well in Iowa?

And why do you reject their opinions?

[CoffeeCat]

14. She's tanking sweetheart...

She's been dropping since she entered this state.

Two Iowa-party Dem officials were on a local radio program
discussing the candidates. One of them mentioned that Hillary
campaign insiders told them that their internals were way down,
and that they are worried.

[MethuenProgressive]

17. You better get that message out - because the people being polled aren't hearing it.

Clinton leads in Iowa; Huckabee, Romney even
by John Whitesides, Political Correspondent

DES MOINES, Iowa (Reuters) - Democrat Hillary Clinton holds a narrow lead in Iowa four days before the state opens the presidential nominating race, while Republicans Mike Huckabee and Mitt Romney are virtually tied, according to a Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby poll released on Sunday.

Clinton, a New York senator, led Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois 31 percent to 27 percent, with former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards a close third at 24 percent and no other Democratic contender registering in double-digits.
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN2948587520071230

I wish my guy was "tanking" with 31% of the poll!

[Evergreen Emerald]

22. so you blame her for the media inevitability mem?

You blame her for dirty politics when the others did the same thing? You are buying the media crap and blaming Clinton for it.

And, that is what she has been overcoming for decades. It is a shame that we throw such talent away and elect someone like Bush.

[earthlover]

23. If we nominate Hillary, we will say "it is a shame that we throw such talent away and elect Romney..

[Speck Tater]

4. And since every caucus-goer in Iowa is hanging on our every word...

... Oh wait. Strike that.

Unfortunately, posting advice to voters and caucus-goers on DU is as effective as sticking post-it notes on the wall in the men's room.

[MethuenProgressive]

8. 'every caucus goer' is less than 10% of Iowa's registered Dems...

a number so small that a surge rejecting the MSM's instruction could shock the world.

[TreasonousBastard]

5. Ummmm... methinks wherever you're sitting, you're...

hearing things far differently than Iowans are.

And their media is not the national cable shit people on DU are obsessed with.

[MethuenProgressive]

12. "their media is not the national cable shit people on DU are obsessed with"

I've been to Iowa. They get cable, too.

[TreasonousBastard]

13. Everybody gets cable-- who watches it?

[Mass]

15. Not that often that I agree with you, but today, I am 100 % with you.\nt

[rucky]

18. K&R

[LWolf]

19. I'll "third" that. n/t

[KingofNewOrleans]

21. Iowans get to see the candidates close-up

They could walk up and poke them if the want too. They get tons of mail directly from the candidates. THE MSM plays a much smaller role in the campaigns than any other state (except maybe NH).

On top of that, those that participate have the drive out in the freezing cold and spend a couple of hours listening to so-so speakers tout their candidates and they shuffle itnot groups and then reshuffle into "viable" groups.

You may not like who they ultimately vote for, but lazy they are not.

[Skittles]

24. I would urge a lot of DUers to do the same

yes INDEED

[Stop Cornyn]

25. If this is a "change" election, Biden, Dodd, and Richardson are too "inside the beltway" -- I don't

mean that as an insult, but a statement of fact based on the three decades of congressional experience for Dodd and Biden and a longist insider resume for Richardson.

[jillan]

26. Thanks for this! another k/r

[Lerkfish]

27. ulterior motive, anyone?

transparent.

[Inspired]

28. Go John Edwards!

Call me anything but don't call me lazy. I've worked my ass off for John Edwards.

Why?

Because he is kicking ass for the middle class!

Go Edwards!

[Marrah_G]

29. I am pretty sure alot of Iowans would find your subject line extremely insulting

[MethuenProgressive]

30. I find it insulting the MSM has selected the top candidates.

And I'm pretty sure a lot of Iowans would agree.

[Stop Cornyn]

33. Actually, the MSM is just following the polls. Have you not seen this data:

If this is what the polling is telling the MSM, how surprising is it that the MSM is mainly ignoring candidates polling at 5% or below? I'm not applauding the MSM's fetishing on Obama, Hillary, and -- to a lesser degree -- Edwards, but I'm also not the least bit shocked by it, and I think it is loony to suggest that is the MSM's job to promote candidates who have failed to promote themselves.

[bigwillq]

31. I agree.

The "second-tier" are so much better than the "top tier"

Go DK!

Although I wouldn't mind Biden or Dodd.

[MethuenProgressive]

36. "The "second-tier" are so much better than the "top tier""

Iowans are clued in - I expect they'll dump one the MSM's darlings.

[onenote]

34. I love presumptuous posts, don't you?

Yep, if you support one of the top three candidates, you are lazy and are just "rubberstamping" one of the media darlings.

That certainly would describe:
RFK Jr (Clinton supporter -- obviously too lazy to think on his own)
Rep Barbara Lee (Obama supporter -- again, very lazy, never thinks on her own)
Mel Watt (Edwards supporter -- never thinks for himself either).

Yep, that's the ticket

[Seabiscuit]

35. Yup.

All this drivel from an OP who posted a poll listing Edwards as a "second tier" candidate.

:rofl: