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scheming daemons
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:35 AM Original message |
As an atheist, I'm offended that there even *IS* an invocation or benediction.... |
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scheming daemons
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:53 AM Response to Original message |
1. Lots of recs by closet atheists, but nobody who wants to "come out".... I guess.... |
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mrreowwr_kittty
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:55 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. I'm out! Atheist and damn proud of it. |
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slackmaster
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Thu Dec-18-08 04:20 AM Response to Reply #1 |
27. Agnostic here, out, and in agreement with the OP |
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silverojo
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Thu Dec-18-08 05:39 AM Response to Reply #1 |
29. I'm not an athiest, but I couldn't agree more |
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Kalyke
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #29 |
58. So marriage is out? |
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dkf
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Sat Dec-20-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #58 |
90. States should approve civil unions. |
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jgraz
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
65. Just call me Outy McOuterson |
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cliffordu
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:53 AM Response to Original message |
2. i'm not an athiest, but I couldn't agree more. |
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BlooInBloo
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:54 AM Response to Original message |
3. (shrug) I'm happy to come out. I just don't care all that much about people's mythological beliefs. |
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leftstreet
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:00 AM Response to Original message |
5. Agree! And why an Evangelical? Why not a Catholic? Or a Mormon? |
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boppers
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:01 AM Response to Original message |
6. Ya know, freedom from religion and freedom to practice religion works both ways. |
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scheming daemons
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:04 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. The point being, NO praying at state-sponsored activities..... |
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boppers
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:16 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. So, you think you should force me to *not* pray if I want to? |
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scheming daemons
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:38 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. No... I think I should be able to force the GOVERNMENT to NOT lead a prayer |
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boppers
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:58 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. If Obama pauses his head in silence... |
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scheming daemons
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:02 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. "Pausing his head in silence" is not necessarily prayer..... |
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boppers
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:12 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I will step on cracks, throw salt, and break mirrors. |
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Kalyke
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #23 |
59. And, apparently, putting down those who have deep faith by reducing it |
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scheming daemons
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #23 |
67. Man, you are dense |
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DailyGrind51
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Sat Dec-20-08 07:58 AM Response to Reply #23 |
83. Could you throw some of that salt on my sidewalk? |
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Township75
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Thu Dec-18-08 07:24 AM Response to Reply #15 |
37. well start somewhere else than the inauguration. |
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BlooInBloo
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:39 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. I'd rather force people to learn how to read, personally. |
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boppers
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:02 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. "Force" people to learn how to read? |
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BlooInBloo
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:25 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. (shrug) It was you who freely chose to lead with the hyperbolic suit. I just followed. |
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harun
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Thu Dec-18-08 10:03 AM Response to Reply #8 |
42. Good luck with that one, 1% of people might agree with you someday |
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Sex Pistol
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Sat Dec-20-08 10:31 AM Response to Reply #8 |
86. The government is indeed secular, but there is this little thing called the 1st Amendment. |
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Rhiannon12866
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:02 AM Response to Original message |
7. K&R. I agree with all of your points, but I still think Obama made a bad decision. |
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The_Casual_Observer
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:11 AM Response to Original message |
9. It's very tricky, there are at least as many that would be offended |
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scheming daemons
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:15 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Oh... I know the reality of the situation..... |
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LeftishBrit
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:17 AM Response to Original message |
12. This point had occurred to me... |
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Greyskye
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Thu Dec-18-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
53. It will be a cold day in heck when *that* happens. |
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Tinksrival
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:26 AM Response to Original message |
13. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND! |
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scheming daemons
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:40 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. I think some people are "hedging their bets"..... but deep down, they know it is bullshit |
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Political Tiger
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:03 AM Response to Reply #13 |
22. I don't get that either. |
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slackmaster
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Thu Dec-18-08 04:22 AM Response to Reply #13 |
28. An article you may find interesting, regarding why smart people believe weird things |
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Berry Cool
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Thu Dec-18-08 07:06 AM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Oh, just keep going ahead, atheists, thinking you're more brilliant than anyone else |
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bunnies
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Thu Dec-18-08 07:50 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. The "smart people" the article refers to are 'believers' |
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Berry Cool
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Thu Dec-18-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #39 |
74. Yeah, and I don't particularly care for how it labels beliefs as "weird." |
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LooseWilly
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Fri Dec-19-08 01:53 AM Response to Reply #74 |
80. I, on the other hand, love how hurt the believers get when their beliefs are "ridiculed" |
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donheld
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:27 AM Response to Original message |
14. You're right |
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Political Tiger
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:59 AM Response to Original message |
19. K & R! |
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latinolatteliberal
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:44 AM Response to Original message |
25. I agree with this post. Beautifully written, too. |
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tinrobot
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Thu Dec-18-08 04:17 AM Response to Original message |
26. Thank you. |
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ladjf
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Thu Dec-18-08 06:01 AM Response to Original message |
30. I would feel better about our government if they would refrain from |
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Island Blue
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Thu Dec-18-08 06:42 AM Response to Original message |
31. Ahmen. n/t |
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davidpdx
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Thu Dec-18-08 07:03 AM Response to Original message |
32. I'm more of a non-practicing christian |
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Connonym
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Thu Dec-18-08 07:05 AM Response to Original message |
33. Amen, so to speak nt |
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eshfemme
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Thu Dec-18-08 07:17 AM Response to Original message |
35. I'm agnostic but I agree that the Constitution is probably a better candidate to swear by |
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polichick
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Thu Dec-18-08 07:24 AM Original message |
I'm not an atheist but imo the prayer is not necessary in a political ceremony... |
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Vinca
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Thu Dec-18-08 07:24 AM Response to Original message |
36. I agree entirely with your post. As an atheist, I'm offended by any clergy |
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bunnies
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Thu Dec-18-08 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
38. Agreed. |
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izzybeans
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Thu Dec-18-08 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
40. peering out to say |
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rolleitreks
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Thu Dec-18-08 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
41. Or if we had to have some spiritual guidance |
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Javaman
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Thu Dec-18-08 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
43. As an anti-anythingist, I'm offened by people being offened. nt |
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Synnical
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
44. I concur. n/t |
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ensho
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
45. the inaugration is a State affair and religion should not be there |
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Jokerman
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
46. K & R! |
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zulchzulu
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
47. I never liked my mom's meat loaf |
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Carni
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
48. I'm sort of a half assed pagan |
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uponit7771
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
49. As a proud Christian I am too. |
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PerpetuallyDazed
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Thu Dec-18-08 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
50. I find this post snarky. |
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LittleBlue
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Thu Dec-18-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. That religious text happens to prescribe the death penalty for gays |
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PerpetuallyDazed
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Thu Dec-18-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. How is Obama (or anyone else for that matter) swearing on the Bible endorsing that?? |
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ieoeja
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #54 |
61. Sigh ... the Constitution does not call Black people 3/5th of a person. |
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PerpetuallyDazed
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. You're applying the context of the Three-fifths compromise |
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nolabels
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Thu Dec-18-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Tell that to the wackos that bring it to every place that they go. |
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kwassa
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. So, should I tell all the gay clergy I know that they are not welcome? |
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BootinUp
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Thu Dec-18-08 06:38 PM Response to Reply #51 |
73. Well shit.... |
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alwysdrunk
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Thu Dec-18-08 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
52. WE have to "Get over it" too |
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PerpetuallyDazed
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Thu Dec-18-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. I agree... that seems to be our trajectory! You can't stop the progress of civil rights. n/t |
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
57. ...and to the Republic, for which it stands. |
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Cleita
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
63. I agree with you and I'm not an atheist. |
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jgraz
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
64. As disgusting as Warren is, THIS is the real problem in a secular democracy |
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ComtesseDeSpair
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
66. I was just going to post something like this. |
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catgirl
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
68. A big kick |
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maxpower
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
69. Well said |
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BootinUp
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
70. lol |
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anigbrowl
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
71. Atheist here. I feel similarly. |
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Obamanaut
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
72. I look at a mandatory prayer break prior to the beginning of any |
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onenote
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Sat Dec-20-08 09:10 AM Response to Reply #72 |
85. except its not mandatory and its constitutionally protected |
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dcindian
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Thu Dec-18-08 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
75. I support this message |
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Warren DeMontague
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Thu Dec-18-08 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
76. If it were me, I'd get sworn in on the U.S. Constitution. |
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Thu Dec-18-08 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
77. You don't have to be an atheist to agree with these ideas |
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kath
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Sat Dec-20-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #77 |
91. yes - and if we really believed in separation, we'd do like the French and require a CIVIL wedding |
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iamahaingttta
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
78. That's how I feel... |
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southerncrone
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Fri Dec-19-08 01:18 AM Response to Original message |
79. Ditto |
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Synnical
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Sat Dec-20-08 12:10 AM Response to Original message |
81. . |
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RiverStone
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Sat Dec-20-08 02:41 AM Response to Original message |
82. Great post! I share your sentiments exactly |
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LaydeeBug
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Sat Dec-20-08 07:59 AM Response to Original message |
84. Oh. Ok. That justifies it then. |
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Sat Dec-20-08 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
87. Good post, |
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IndependentDem
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Sat Dec-20-08 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
88. Error: you can only recommend threads which were started in the past 24 hours |
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Lucian
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Sat Dec-20-08 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
89. I'm tired of all this religion bullshit also. |
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