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Renew Deal
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:10 AM Original message |
DU is not a pillar of tolerance. |
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Kalyke
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
1. But Warren doesn't tolerate me. |
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WillParkinson
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
2. And this is part of the solution? |
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Renew Deal
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. This is really not about the invocation at all. |
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WillParkinson
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I will not disagree that tempers are high... |
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Renew Deal
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #4 |
12. There is a good reason why people are upset. |
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WillParkinson
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #12 |
21. Wants them to know they're welcome... |
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Renew Deal
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. I agree. |
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RaleighNCDUer
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Thu Dec-18-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #21 |
48. For the national audience, it does just fine. It is NOT center stage. |
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Sugarcoated
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:27 PM Response to Reply #48 |
57. That's how I see it, too. |
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WillParkinson
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #57 |
68. So the GLBT community is a bone? |
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Sugarcoated
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #68 |
74. Not even close |
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WillParkinson
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. When I stop seeing red... |
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Sugarcoated
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Thu Dec-18-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. Let me ask you this then |
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WillParkinson
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Fri Dec-19-08 04:14 AM Response to Reply #81 |
103. No. |
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WillParkinson
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:05 PM Response to Reply #48 |
67. It means... |
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jakem
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
5. DU is tolerant of only those that agree with DU. |
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Posteritatis
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. DU doesn't agree with DU as to what DU agrees with, though |
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Renew Deal
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #6 |
13. That's for sure. |
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jakem
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #6 |
15. Yes, it does. |
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quakerboy
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #6 |
69. No joke |
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BlooInBloo
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Thu Dec-18-08 05:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
96. I disagree. |
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snowbear
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Fri Dec-19-08 07:24 AM Response to Reply #6 |
113. huh? |
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bunnies
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. DU doesnt even agree with DU. |
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Posteritatis
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #9 |
34. No it doesn't. |
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bunnies
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #34 |
44. Liar. |
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AZBlue
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Fri Dec-19-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #5 |
127. Ding, ding, ding!! |
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Justyce
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
7. Agree, the hypocrisy can be pretty stout around here. nt |
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nichomachus
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
8. I nominate this for stupidest OP of the week -- maybe the year |
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Renew Deal
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #8 |
16. Did you just prove my point? |
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Maven
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. No. He didn't. What he showed is the proper indignation. Which is what you'd show |
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Renew Deal
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #19 |
26. Show me where I blamed people for objecting to Warren. |
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Maven
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:32 AM Original message |
That is exactly what you're doing. Calling people "intolerant" because they don't |
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Renew Deal
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
33. No... |
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Maven
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:38 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. What you posted was indefensible. |
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Renew Deal
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. At what point to do you turn the outrage off? |
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Maven
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. When the outrages end. |
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Renew Deal
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. I agree |
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nichomachus
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Maybe it was this line |
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Renew Deal
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #29 |
37. The response has not been wholly "principled." |
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nichomachus
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. I don't think you are the proper person |
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Renew Deal
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #41 |
45. You're making stuff up again. |
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nichomachus
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Your point, unfortunately, is unprovable |
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spiritual_gunfighter
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Fri Dec-19-08 06:00 AM Response to Reply #16 |
110. Yeah I second this OP as the stupidest post of the year |
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MadBadger
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #8 |
27. Ever heard of Proud2BAmurkin? |
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Rebubula
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
10. Tolerance |
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dmallind
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
11. bullshit - look at the atheist group |
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Renew Deal
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #11 |
20. There's one good point in there. |
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dmallind
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #20 |
55. So who exactly would the anti-religious be? |
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Renew Deal
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #55 |
73. Being an atheist doesn't make you anti-religion |
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dmallind
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Thu Dec-18-08 05:17 PM Response to Reply #73 |
82. I understand that - but not what I asked |
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kwassa
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:32 PM Response to Reply #11 |
58. um, there is another major thread here started by an atheist. |
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dmallind
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Yes - but are MOST of us bothered |
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
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Rebubula
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:24 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Makes... |
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nichomachus
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. I have a feeling any kind of logic makes your head spin |
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Renew Deal
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #14 |
22. No, I'm chiding the intolerant that think they're tolerant. |
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noiretextatique
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Thu Dec-18-08 07:05 PM Response to Reply #14 |
102. that pretty much sums it up: being tolerant of the intolerant |
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Bjorn Against
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
17. There is no reason we should have tolerance and understanding for bigotry |
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Renew Deal
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #17 |
31. And not all believers are homophobic. |
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Bjorn Against
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #31 |
46. I never said all believers were homophobic. |
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Renew Deal
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. I know. |
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RaleighNCDUer
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #46 |
54. Is he? Really? |
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Bjorn Against
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. Yeah, I'm sure if he invited David Duke he might get some racists watching as well. |
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RaleighNCDUer
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. So every person who goes to Warren's church is a bigot? |
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Bjorn Against
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. I never said every person who goes to Warren's church is a bigot. |
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mwb970
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Fri Dec-19-08 07:15 AM Response to Reply #54 |
111. Error. Error. Too logical. Too logical. |
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Barack_America
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
28. I am prejudiced against fundamentalist Christians. |
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hlthe2b
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
30. DAMN IT PEOPLE!...... |
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ROakes1019
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
32. intolerance |
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Maven
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #32 |
39. Is it Renegade08 come to grace us with his presence again? |
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cboy4
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #39 |
78. Oh no. |
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mwb970
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Fri Dec-19-08 07:17 AM Response to Reply #32 |
112. Another logical post. Why do you bother? |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME
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Fri Dec-19-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #32 |
126. Hear Hear! |
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mmonk
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
35. I don't pretend to be tolerant of the intolerant and the political following |
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bahrbearian
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Sat Dec-20-08 02:37 AM Response to Reply #35 |
128. Sounds like you read George Orwell |
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a la izquierda
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
43. ... |
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Jennicut
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Thu Dec-18-08 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
49. I don't think I am tolerant enough |
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alcibiades_mystery
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Thu Dec-18-08 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
50. Tolerance is a fucking fraud |
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phleshdef
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Thu Dec-18-08 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
51. Nail meet HEAD |
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WinkyDink
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Thu Dec-18-08 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
52. I think you are a bit confused. Democrats are not, nor ever claimed to be, "tolerant" of bigots. |
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Marrah_G
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
53. What an ignorant post- welcome to ignore |
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Renew Deal
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #53 |
75. Ignorance is bliss. |
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Cleita
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
56. I've had enough posted removed on women's issues to know that |
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SidneyCarton
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
62. Give it up man, the steamroller is rolling, they're not going to stop until they run out of gas. |
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
64. It's not a sin to be intolerant of intolerance. |
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Solon
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
65. Tolerate the intolerant if you wish, I won't stand with you, for surely you stand against GLBT... |
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Renew Deal
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #65 |
76. You have no idea where I stand, |
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
66. Warren is an apostle of virulent anti-intellectual Christianity |
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
70. The difference is that gay people exist. nt |
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
71. The most radical revolutionary is a staunch conservative the day after the revolution. |
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
72. Hypocritical? Yes. Surprising? No, not to me; DU can be a place where... |
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Renew Deal
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #72 |
77. Great post! |
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infidel dog
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
80. what's so funny 'bout peace, love and.... |
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Neshanic
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Thu Dec-18-08 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
83. No indeed, as the scramble to man battlestations for the Obama/Warren gaff |
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Thu Dec-18-08 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
84. Fuck Rick Warren. |
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Odin2005
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Thu Dec-18-08 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
85. The people bashing Obama seem to think hate and intolerance is cured by more hate and intolerance. |
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Thu Dec-18-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. And some people here are drawing false equivalencies between bigots and their victims. |
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Odin2005
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Thu Dec-18-08 05:55 PM Response to Reply #89 |
94. No. |
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Lyric
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Thu Dec-18-08 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
86. It's not intolerance to denounce bigots. |
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Odin2005
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Thu Dec-18-08 05:46 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Hate doersn't cure hate, it just creates more hate. |
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Thu Dec-18-08 05:48 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. Calling bigots on their bigotry ISN'T hate. |
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Odin2005
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Thu Dec-18-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. "Right-wing arguments" my ass/ I call 'em as I see 'em. |
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Lyric
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Thu Dec-18-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #92 |
97. There's a big-ass gulf of difference between the extremes you mentioned |
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Odin2005
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Thu Dec-18-08 06:43 PM Response to Reply #97 |
100. I know the analogies weren't perfect, but I think you missed the larger point. |
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davidpdx
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Fri Dec-19-08 05:57 AM Response to Reply #92 |
109. Unfortunately, that's exactly what people have been doing today |
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ZombieHorde
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Thu Dec-18-08 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
88. Maybe you should learn to tolerate other people's intolerance. |
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Deja Q
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Thu Dec-18-08 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
91. Hear hear! |
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Liberalboy
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Thu Dec-18-08 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
93. That's not the point... |
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Renew Deal
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Fri Dec-19-08 10:16 AM Response to Reply #93 |
114. First we should consider what the core values of the Democratic Party. |
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Liberalboy
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Fri Dec-19-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #114 |
118. You're right... |
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BlooInBloo
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Thu Dec-18-08 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
95. Not smart. Not even clever.... |
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La Lioness Priyanka
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Thu Dec-18-08 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
98. not tolerating homophobes is not considered intolerant? how stupid. nt |
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Renew Deal
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Fri Dec-19-08 10:17 AM Response to Reply #98 |
115. Who are you calling homophobes? |
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Solon
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Thu Dec-18-08 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
99. Your damned right about that, too many people here tolerate homophobia! |
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Starbucks Anarchist
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Thu Dec-18-08 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
101. I don't care about his religion, I care about his homophobia and sexism. |
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Fri Dec-19-08 04:33 AM Response to Original message |
104. You fail to see a most basic point in all of this |
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Chovexani
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Fri Dec-19-08 04:50 AM Response to Original message |
105. What is the point of this asinine thread except to further stir shit? |
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EFerrari
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Fri Dec-19-08 04:55 AM Response to Reply #105 |
107. Warren reminds me of Larry the Cable Guy. |
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Renew Deal
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Fri Dec-19-08 10:20 AM Response to Reply #105 |
116. This thread is not about Warren at all. |
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Solon
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Fri Dec-19-08 02:57 PM Response to Reply #116 |
119. Yeah right, I have not heard people condemn him for being a Christian... |
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Behind the Aegis
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Fri Dec-19-08 04:51 AM Response to Original message |
106. Tolerating intolerance shouldn't be a pillar of DU. |
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noamnety
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Fri Dec-19-08 05:43 AM Response to Original message |
108. You know what I hate about oppressed people? |
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undeterred
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Fri Dec-19-08 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
117. I'm irrational because I believe in god. |
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Solon
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Fri Dec-19-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #117 |
120. Why the hell are you conflating a bunch of unrelated issues with Warren? n/t |
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undeterred
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Fri Dec-19-08 09:48 PM Response to Reply #120 |
124. Forgive me. |
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IndianaGreen
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Fri Dec-19-08 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
121. If the Warren matter is a harbinger of how Obama will bring this country together |
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Fri Dec-19-08 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
122. I do not care what you believe as long as you do not try to force these beliefs on me. |
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Fri Dec-19-08 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
123. Good, balanced post. I am very much against the Warren invocation but I have seen a level of vitriol |
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Fri Dec-19-08 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
125. Hypocrites Abound. |
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Sat Dec-20-08 02:58 AM Response to Original message |
129. Damn good thing we DON'T walk in lock-step like the freepers |
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