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Thu Dec-18-08 01:12 PM Original message |
The more I hear both sides complain, the more I like Obama's choice of Rick Warren |
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LostinVA
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
1. Fuck that -- I have no desire to find "common ground" with bigots |
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Dennis Donovan
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Seconded. |
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bvar22
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
29. Thirded. |
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lwcon
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Mon Dec-22-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #29 |
186. Fourthed. |
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KittyWampus
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
21. and thus, ironically, you become part of the problem. Someone has to be the grown up |
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dave29
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #21 |
35. THANK YOU |
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LostinVA
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Fuck that -- NO COMMON GROUND WITH BIGOTS |
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KittyWampus
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:02 PM Response to Reply #38 |
63. Your attitude means no further progress in society. That's okay, those of us committed to changing |
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Mon Dec-22-08 10:05 AM Response to Reply #38 |
175. The "problem" is we do have common ground with Warren whether you like it or not |
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IndianaGreen
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Mon Dec-22-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #175 |
182. Warren's contribution to AIDS is to spread AIDS in Africa |
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Mon Dec-22-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #182 |
184. That's a gross simplification of what he's done on AIDS |
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scheming daemons
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:35 PM Response to Reply #21 |
36. +1!!! |
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jakem
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #21 |
40. +2 |
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Dennis Donovan
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #40 |
52. -2 |
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jakem
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. cheater. nt |
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snooper2
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:56 PM Response to Reply #52 |
107. +4 |
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Dennis Donovan
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #107 |
114. -infinity |
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Starbucks Anarchist
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #21 |
45. Why can't Warren the bigot be the grown-up? |
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KittyWampus
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #45 |
67. Because he's too busy making millions and getting off on being powerful. You & I on the other hand, |
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Starbucks Anarchist
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:05 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. And we can get "there" without him. |
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KittyWampus
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. Denying someone's existence is an extreme form of violence. |
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Starbucks Anarchist
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #72 |
78. Denying someone's existence... like Prop 8, which Warren vocally supported? |
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KittyWampus
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #78 |
86. Yes, I do. BTW, this is exactly why comedians like Jon Stewart are so important in changing society |
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Starbucks Anarchist
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. So you think ignoring/despising Warren is on par with doing the same with gays? |
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KittyWampus
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #90 |
105. It's just as counter-productive to progressing the cause of social justice |
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Starbucks Anarchist
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. You're right, we should just play nice. |
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KittyWampus
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #106 |
118. Where did I say we should just play nice? And yes, grown ups tend to act respectfully |
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Starbucks Anarchist
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #118 |
119. People like Warren will NEVER change. |
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frylock
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:27 PM Response to Reply #119 |
123. word up! |
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Moderate Dem
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:39 PM Original message |
Sorry, replied to the wrong post! |
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Moderate Dem
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #119 |
134. I think MLK would have gladly sat down with George Wallace. |
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loyalsister
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #119 |
135. Shirley Chisholm did |
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Sun Dec-21-08 11:09 PM Response to Reply #119 |
146. Guess what? Wallace DID change. |
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IndianaGreen
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Sun Dec-21-08 11:45 PM Response to Reply #146 |
150. After he was shot! |
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mondo joe
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Mon Dec-22-08 12:58 AM Response to Reply #146 |
164. self delete |
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eridani
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Tue Dec-23-08 11:56 PM Response to Reply #146 |
190. But not because his opponents ever said "Hey, he may have a point there-- |
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No Elephants
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Mon Dec-22-08 12:59 AM Response to Reply #119 |
166. Having a dialogue with him does not require honoring him with the |
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NorthCarolina
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. Mana from heaven comes in the form of |
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Mon Dec-22-08 02:17 AM Response to Reply #45 |
168. Because we who are grown-up have to show him (and those like him) the way... |
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Dennis Donovan
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #21 |
50. Please try to understand this: Bigots are to be SHUNNED, not LEGITIMIZED... |
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gravity
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. What are you trying to accomplish? |
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mkultra
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. i agree with you |
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dbonds
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. You don't honor them into agreeing with you either. |
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gravity
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #61 |
74. But you have to respect them as a human being |
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dbonds
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #74 |
82. That is the crux of the issue, they don't respect us and wish us harm. |
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gravity
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. Do you know how to get people to respect you? |
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dbonds
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #87 |
94. Sorry, you just don't get it. |
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gravity
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #94 |
102. They never had respect for gay people |
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dbonds
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. They have to call off the war first. |
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:56 PM Response to Reply #104 |
108. You sound jus like * regarding Iran. n/t |
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dbonds
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #108 |
110. You sound like an idiot. |
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #110 |
128. . |
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gravity
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:04 PM Response to Reply #104 |
111. And that is why we are in a stalemate |
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dbonds
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #111 |
120. The mistake here is thinking you will win their hearts. |
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gravity
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #120 |
125. But we don't even have enough hearts to get it passed in California |
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dbonds
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #125 |
127. My take on CA... |
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LostinVA
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:56 PM Response to Reply #125 |
138. Your buddy Warren made sure of that |
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LostinVA
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #87 |
98. You have got to be kidding me |
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Raineyb
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Mon Dec-22-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #87 |
178. There's respect and then there's a national platform. |
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Dennis Donovan
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #55 |
79. It's one thing to talk to them, it's completely another to honor them... |
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donco6
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #55 |
130. As a former fundamentalist, all I can say is Wake the hell up. |
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WonderGrunion
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Mon Dec-22-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #130 |
181. You're the only fundamentalist capable of changing? |
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Mon Dec-22-08 10:07 AM Response to Reply #55 |
176. DU talking about Warren sounds like Bush talking about Ahmadinajad NT |
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KittyWampus
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #50 |
89. so you think shunning bigotry will actually make things better? Good thing MLK didn't agree |
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Dennis Donovan
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #89 |
93. He most certainly DID shun bigotry. Do you THINK he tried to find common ground? |
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WonderGrunion
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Mon Dec-22-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #50 |
183. Like Senator Byrd? |
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dbonds
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #21 |
59. Being a wimp isn't being a grown up, don't flatter yourself with that. |
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Sun Dec-21-08 09:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
141. I do support some of the discussion his choice has sparked on DU... |
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No Elephants
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Mon Dec-22-08 12:53 AM Response to Reply #21 |
161. Yes, but inviting someone to give an invocation is not doing the hard work |
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Mon Dec-22-08 12:58 AM Response to Reply #21 |
165. Here! Here! nt |
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Mon Dec-22-08 06:46 AM Response to Reply #21 |
171. Warren already guaranteed no common ground can be found. |
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
41. Agreed. |
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mkultra
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
49. then im sure you wont. |
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
84. Wish I coudl rec a response. n/t |
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LostinVA
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #84 |
99. Thanks |
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
117. its hard to find common ground when one side isn't even viewed |
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Mon Dec-22-08 02:16 AM Response to Reply #1 |
167. I'm gay, and I do have the desire to find common ground with them. |
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Mon Dec-22-08 10:02 AM Response to Reply #1 |
174. Nor do I! |
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WonderGrunion
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Mon Dec-22-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #1 |
180. Do you believe that Sen. Byrd |
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
2. The irony in your final sentence boggles the mind. |
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Zenlitened
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
22. LOL |
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
3. sure, throwing women and gays under the bus |
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. But hey, The Inaugeral Committe says Warren is an advocate for "social justice", except of course |
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #3 |
19. Warren is a disappointing choice, but I don't feel in any way thrown under the bus |
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:27 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. glad to hear you like triangulation |
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Things aren't always black and white. There's a vast |
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musette_sf
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. i was willing to live with that grey area |
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QC
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #23 |
46. Which of your basic human rights shall we consign to that gray area? |
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ecstatic
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. Again, as a woman, I don't feel my human rights have been taken away |
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QC
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:05 PM Response to Reply #51 |
69. No, your rights haven't been taken away. |
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Mon Dec-22-08 11:31 AM Response to Reply #51 |
185. good line... |
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #20 |
77. No he hasn't failed. Give him a chance. |
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AlCzervik
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
4. was it Warrens comparison of homosexuals to rapists and child molesters that won you over? |
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. It is his commitment to fighting poverty and AIDS in Africa |
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AlCzervik
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. oh okay, thanks for clearing that up, i can see how that makes up for his statements. |
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LostinVA
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Yeah, because no Liberal Christian clergy fight poverty or do AIDS Outreach |
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:24 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. The point is that he is one of the few, if the only, big pastor on the right who has shown movement |
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. And that is so much more important than the civil rights of American citizens! |
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gravity
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. Global poverty is pretty damn important too |
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LostinVA
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:31 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Does that work better for you than going to the Chiropractor??? |
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AlCzervik
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #28 |
80. you're missing the point, his "work" on fighting poverty and aids allows him to make |
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LostinVA
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #80 |
112. DOH! You are right!!! |
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AlCzervik
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #112 |
115. I'm just here to help. |
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LostinVA
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:21 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. I appreciate straight people telling me how to think -- it makes things easier |
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AlCzervik
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:32 PM Response to Reply #116 |
126. indeed it is, it's way past bonkers. |
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LostinVA
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #126 |
131. Rationalizations as twisted as a pretzel |
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Bluebear
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Tue Dec-23-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #28 |
188. :) |
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saracat
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #26 |
39. THe ignorance displayed is monumental. Ever hear of Kitchen table issues? |
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mondo joe
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Mon Dec-22-08 12:53 AM Response to Reply #6 |
162. That's great, since he opposes conom distribution to fight AIDS. |
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Sun Dec-21-08 11:19 PM Response to Reply #4 |
148. You dodged chimpsrsmarter's question: was it Warren's comparison of homosexuals to rapists & child m |
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
7. How special for you. |
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Neshanic
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
10. Hey Lincoln! Get some pro slavery people up there. |
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quakerboy
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #10 |
57. Andrew Johnson |
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dbonds
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
12. No fucking common ground with bigots and hatemongers. |
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
13. I think we need at least 20 more threads |
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
15. Yay! Common ground with hatemongers! |
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #17 |
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
24. If the far side of both sides hate it, you know it's probably good |
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LostinVA
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Why yes, I DO want to obliterate bigotry and discrimination |
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KittyWampus
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #27 |
122. You don't extinguish the Darkness, you turn on a Light |
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:32 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. Are you insane--- the FAR side, we are talking about bigotry and hate. |
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. I have the same position that you have |
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dbonds
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. This isn't a litmus test of a theoretical issue. This is every bit a safety issue. |
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #24 |
42. So the gays and lesbians = the "far" side to you. |
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. No, just the ones blowing this out of proportion |
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LostinVA
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #47 |
73. And what is "blowing it out of proportion" -- serious question |
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LostinVA
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #47 |
100. I see you haven't answered my question yet |
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alwysdrunk
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:38 PM Response to Reply #100 |
103. Ha! have you read DU today |
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LostinVA
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #103 |
113. It's exactly like inviting a Klansman,a nd he is legitimizing the bigot's POV |
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Mon Dec-22-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #24 |
179. So now you have to be to the far left to oppose the likes of Warren? |
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
30. You don't understand the difference between |
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
32. you are disgusting |
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:40 PM Response to Reply #33 |
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Dennis Donovan
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #33 |
54. Wasn't that a Green Day song? |
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
34. If you haven't noticed this choice is not bringing people together, it is tearing us apart. |
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mkultra
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #34 |
56. It is angering to those who want to fight. |
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. It is impossible to be inclusive of both bigots and the victims of bigotry |
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mkultra
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:02 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. lol. How very assumptive of you. |
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #64 |
81. What I said is the truth whether you like it or not. |
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #81 |
96. actually, neither your assumption nor your foolish approach are true |
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:01 PM Response to Reply #96 |
109. Cut from the same cloth? Please. |
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Wed Dec-24-08 01:00 AM Response to Reply #96 |
191. Please link to an LGBT site that advocates stripping civil rights from straights n/t |
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:02 PM Response to Reply #34 |
65. Not people who think it's not that big a deal |
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #65 |
76. So what about Warren's views aren't a big deal? |
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #76 |
88. The ones he will be giving at the event |
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #88 |
101. Legitimizing his views by placing him at the forefront and letting him invoke God? |
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #65 |
85. Many do think it is a big deal though, this decision is not unifying for those who condemn bigotry |
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
48. I totally agree with you |
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
60. So how'd that meeting go with the Grand Wizard of the KKK, David Duke, and |
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
66. throwing a bone to the fundies. |
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
68. Fuck that- |
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
75. Why didn't Rick Warren campaign with Obama? |
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
91. This is the Fox News "fair and balanced" argument that tries to |
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. Nicely done! |
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Sun Dec-21-08 11:58 PM Response to Reply #91 |
153. Yep. The "both sides" argument is almost always bull |
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
95. Yes, the choice of Warren certainly has united Obama's supporters. |
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
97. The trouble is, Warren isn't part of the political spectrum, he's a bigot and homophobe |
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
121. So....David Duke will also speak? Common ground and all... |
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Sun Dec-21-08 09:47 PM Response to Reply #121 |
143. Yeah, why the Hell not? |
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
124. Yeah, I'm farting rainbows of joy right now. n/t |
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
129. Face it, this forum has a lot of "far leftists"... |
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #129 |
132. hahahahaha --DU HAS ALOT OF "FAR LEFTISTS"??????? |
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #132 |
136. You disagree? |
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LostinVA
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:55 PM Response to Reply #136 |
137. Three things |
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #136 |
139. "Mocking attitude" |
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
133. I agree with you |
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Thu Dec-18-08 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
140. It's very Matt Santos... |
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Sun Dec-21-08 09:45 PM Response to Reply #140 |
142. And the only two places on earth where you'll find "reasonable" Republicans anymore |
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Sun Dec-21-08 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
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Sun Dec-21-08 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
145. Sure, Rick Warren is a fine example of how Obama will bring this nation together |
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Sun Dec-21-08 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
147. When I saw that both extreme ends were bitching I knew Obama must be doing something right. |
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Sun Dec-21-08 11:44 PM Response to Reply #147 |
149. i agree with ya on that n/t |
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Sun Dec-21-08 11:49 PM Response to Reply #147 |
151. I suppose Nelson Mandela was totalitarian for insisting on the end of apartheid |
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Sun Dec-21-08 11:55 PM Response to Reply #151 |
152. No, but he didn't have to problem talking with racists. |
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Mon Dec-22-08 12:24 AM Response to Reply #152 |
156. Dr. King's words don't apply to gays, eh? You should be ashamed of yourself. |
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Mon Dec-22-08 12:55 AM Response to Reply #152 |
163. Coretta Scott King said those words directly applied to gays. Are you a greater authority |
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Mon Dec-22-08 04:19 AM Response to Reply #163 |
169. Do you run away from every threat? |
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Mon Dec-22-08 10:22 AM Response to Reply #169 |
177. When did I run away? |
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Mon Dec-22-08 12:23 AM Response to Reply #147 |
155. "Extreme ends" = gays and lesbians, yes? |
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Mon Dec-22-08 12:51 AM Response to Reply #147 |
160. "gays = child molesters" vs "no we're not" is now two extreme ends. |
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Mon Dec-22-08 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
154. I don't have "common ground" with Nazis nor do I associate with trash that does.... |
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Mon Dec-22-08 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
157. Yes, after all we need to learn how to reach out to bigots and homophobes, |
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Mon Dec-22-08 12:44 AM Response to Original message |
158. Both sides of the political spectrum? First, the "political spectrum" |
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Mon Dec-22-08 12:50 AM Response to Original message |
159. I look forward to your future appalling disappointment. |
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Mon Dec-22-08 08:16 AM Response to Reply #159 |
172. Don't hold your breath. |
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Mon Dec-22-08 06:38 AM Response to Original message |
170. I've been thinking this also. |
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Mon Dec-22-08 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
173. I'm waiting to see how much Warren |
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Mon Dec-22-08 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
187. the great thing about the internet is no one is ashamed of publicly displaying stupidity |
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Tue Dec-23-08 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
189. Yes, for 8 years the complaint was Bush divided a nation staying on either side of that divide is > |
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