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Solon
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:52 PM Original message |
You know, looking at DU today, I'm reminded of LBJ... |
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Sugarcoated
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
1. The President-elect has his own style |
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Solon
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. And how much longer are gay people supposed to wait, 10 years, 20 years... |
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Sugarcoated
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. Hopefully not. I really don't think it's that far in the future with President Obama |
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Solon
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. LBJ was thinking big picture, and he damn near destroyed his party's chances... |
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Sugarcoated
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:18 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Okay . . . |
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Solon
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. No issue is more important than Civil Rights! |
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Sugarcoated
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. No, sorry. The hammer approach won't work with me. |
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Solon
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. And GLBT people aren't dying everyday as well? |
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Sugarcoated
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:52 PM Response to Reply #48 |
60. So let's agree that there are many, many issues |
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Toasterlad
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #40 |
57. In a Just World, You Would Lose ALL of the Rights You Take For Granted |
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TheWraith
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Thu Dec-18-08 04:34 PM Response to Reply #3 |
68. How about waiting a few weeks? |
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Cheap_Trick
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. I'd like to see him tackle the ECONOMY and the never ending WARS first |
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LostinVA
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Rather than civil rights? And, Presidents CAN multitask, you know |
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Solon
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Don't bother, for some people, civil rights just aren't important, and its not like LBJ... |
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LostinVA
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #21 |
32. TRue, I forgot LBJ was President during the Calm and Peaceful Era |
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Dennis Donovan
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
2. Recommended. |
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IndianaJones
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
4. i wonder if african americans were described by whites of the day as whining about their rights? nt. |
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ellacott
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:04 PM Original message |
Of course they were |
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IndianaJones
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
11. exactly...and those people were racists. now go check the recs in the whining gays thread. nt. |
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ellacott
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. No |
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IndianaJones
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. I see the words whining and bitching thrown around quite a bit to describe people lately. nt. |
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Sebastian Doyle
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Well, all that and worse. |
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JohnnieGordon
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Thu Dec-18-08 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
5. Excuse me, but there's plenty of gays who *can't* hide it |
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Solon
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:01 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. I know that, and you know that, I was talking to some of the idiots here on DU. |
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Laelth
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
7. Very interesting. k&r n/t |
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OHdem10
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
10. LBJ knew how to count. He knew he could get enough votes |
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Solon
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Uhm, excuse me? The majority of white people nationwide may have looked down... |
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Are_grits_groceries
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #10 |
26. Uh... not really. |
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T Wolf
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #26 |
59. AMEN! And, as a draft-lottery player who lost friends in that damn war, I hate him for Vietnam |
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blueclown
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
12. There have been few very presidents who have had the political skill of LBJ.. |
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Wetzelbill
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #12 |
33. Not at this stage of the game does he compare |
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LostinVA
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
17. Yup -- I mentioned LBJ yesterday |
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Wetzelbill
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
20. You'd be asking Obama to live in limbo, because that;s not who he is |
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Solon
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:15 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. LBJ wasn't necessarily like that too, but people like MLK Jr. applied pressure... |
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Wetzelbill
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. good point |
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jgraz
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
22. Lesbian, Bisexual ... um... Jewish? |
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Solon
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Do you like making snarky comments about initials, or are you capable of actual wit? |
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jgraz
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Please put "sense of humor" on your Christmas list |
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Solon
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #31 |
41. I lost my sense of humor yesterday when people viciously attack my GLBT brother and sisters... |
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Toasterlad
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #41 |
53. I Sympathize...But I Still Thought jgraz's Snark Was Funny. |
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jgraz
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #41 |
62. Humor is the only way I can deal with that crap |
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Wetzelbill
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #22 |
37. oh that does it |
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ecstatic
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
25. If you continue to tear him down before he gets into office |
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Solon
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. If advocating for equal rights for GLBT people equates to tearing down Obama... |
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Spider Jerusalem
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
28. It was Eisenhower who called out the National Guard in Little Rock. |
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Solon
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. Ooops, your right, my bad, well, LBJ did get force Hoover to actually investigate civil... |
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scheming daemons
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
30. And because of the way LBJ went about it, for the next 40 years... |
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Solon
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. MLK's dream still hasn't been realized, but at least on paper, and legally... |
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Are_grits_groceries
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #30 |
43. Here's what MLK Jr. had to say about "waiting" : |
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Starbucks Anarchist
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #30 |
52. Today's demographics are far different. |
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Radical Activist
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
39. No, you don't have the history right. |
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Solon
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. The bill would never have passed without the Republicans... |
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Radical Activist
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Having listened to some of those tapes |
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Solon
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:45 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. He did burn a few bridges, especially with some of the more ardent segregationists... |
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LostinVA
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. Thos epeople thought the bill would fail -- that's why "women" was included as a protected class |
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Mike 03
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
42. Extraordinarily Excellent Post. The analysis of LBJ and how he approached |
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WI_DEM
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
44. he actually wasn't a racist asshole. He was a teacher to Mexican-American kids and had a deep |
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Solon
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:32 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Hmm...from what I remember, he was racist when the situation called for it... |
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Radical Activist
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Yes. He pandered and reached out to racists |
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Solon
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:47 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. Are you saying Obama probably uses the word "faggot" when talking to people like Warren? |
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Radical Activist
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Obama doesn't reach out to bigots as much as LBJ did. |
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WI_DEM
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:53 PM Response to Reply #46 |
61. As I point out he did represent Texas and yes, did vote against civil rights |
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katandmoon
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
51. THAT WAS OVER FORTY YEARS AGO |
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Neshanic
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
55. LBJ was one of a kind. Our legacy now Pelosi/Obama types. |
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PVnRT
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
63. Excellent post |
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KittyWampus
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Thu Dec-18-08 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
64. You don't know much about how Ghandi operated. He worked to create sympathy for Independence. |
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Solon
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Thu Dec-18-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Ghandi also wasn't the head of a state... |
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nsd
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Thu Dec-18-08 04:15 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Gandhi. |
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alwysdrunk
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Thu Dec-18-08 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
67. "Will he be willing to spend all of his political capital" |
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Pale Blue Dot
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Thu Dec-18-08 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
69. You mean he used his LEADERSHIP skills to do the right thing? |
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