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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-21-09 08:19 AM Original message |
Obama, must we 'keep our eyes on the prize' by settling for Baucus' Healthcare bill? |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-21-09 08:22 AM Response to Original message |
1. I read that and thought the same thing. |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-21-09 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
2. He's referring to cloture. |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-21-09 08:26 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. But cloture on WHAT? There is a significant difference between a bill that includes a PO and a bill |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-21-09 08:28 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. You do understand that after the cloture vote, Senators are free to move ammendments. |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-21-09 08:32 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. "free to" and "going to" are not the same thing |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-21-09 08:40 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Bernie Sanders estimtates there are are there or four Dems against the PO |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-21-09 09:43 AM Response to Reply #9 |
18. And he is asking Reid to put the PO in the bill. |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-21-09 08:33 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. It will take 60 votes to strip out a public option, but only 40 to kill it on the Senate floor-- |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-21-09 08:55 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Not necessarily. |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-21-09 09:13 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. It will take 60 votes to add it on the floor, and 60 votes to strip it out. |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-21-09 09:42 AM Response to Reply #4 |
17. Yes, and they can be filibustered. It is easier for them to filibuster an amendment on a PO than a |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-21-09 08:29 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Agreed. |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-21-09 11:03 AM Response to Reply #3 |
24. Yesterday's CBO score of the House bill... |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-21-09 08:29 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Or, is it a 'foreshadowing' of what will come out of the Senate merger of Finance and HELP bills? |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-21-09 10:58 AM Response to Reply #6 |
22. Nah, I think that was just what it sounded like.... |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-21-09 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
12. why aim high when u can settle for something thats the worst of the lot eh? nt |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-21-09 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
13. How do you get "by settling for Baucus' Healthcare bill" from |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-21-09 09:22 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. We will see. It sounds like he's preparing us to settle for what's in Baucus' bill. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-21-09 09:28 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I highly doubt that is even remotely |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-21-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #15 |
26. I think you know the reason why. |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-21-09 09:37 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Bullshit, He's Making The Point That EVEN The LEAST Popular Of ALL The Bills |
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joeycola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-21-09 09:49 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. and he is bragging it up. damm!! |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-21-09 11:00 AM Response to Reply #14 |
23. Then why does Rahm think the PO will come via the House bill? |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-21-09 11:27 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. If the top priority for Blue Dogs is not blocking the PO, then it will pass. |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-21-09 11:46 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Exactly. ;-) NT |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-21-09 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
19. Has Obama come out in opposition to the House bill? |
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joeycola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-21-09 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
21. (Meanwhile, Speaker Nancy Pelosi is standing firm.) |
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