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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:24 PM
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I will not take joy in Reagan's passing.
I can't bring myself to do it.

Because of the Republican ASSHOLES who were pretty much brimming with fucking GLEE when Wellstone died. Hell, they still are, considering the hateful bumper stickers that can still be seen insulting his memory.

Liberals are better than that.

I'm better than that.

Still miss you, Paul.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:32 PM
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1. Well said.
Let the hatemongers go. I hold no truck with Reagan, but he was better than the crowd in there now, and their orcs who want nothing more than to silence dissent.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:34 PM
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2. Well I will!
Hurray!!!!!!
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:40 PM
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3. I second that
we have good reason: simply put, Reagan was a traitor. He was a participant in a little underground secret operation of selling arms to his buddy Ayatollah Khomeini and using the money to fund death squads in Central America that disappeared those who opposed the U.S. agenda down there. Good riddance to a man without a conscience.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:41 PM
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4. One thing about it...
Dubya isn't the main news like he hoped to be.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:45 PM
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6. Do you honestly think Reagan called any of those shots?
He was - and I do not use this term to disrespect him, but only to point out the obvious - a stooge for the real men behind the scenes, like George Bush the Smarter. Reagan, much like Bush the Lesser, is the guy they put out in front of the cameras to put a kind face on their evil agenda. When Reagan said that he couldn't recall details about Iran-Contra, I believed him. He was probably even more out of the loop of White House activities than I was.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 12:47 AM
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8. he was the clueless frontman, not much more than a puppet
Reagan could barely tell his @$$hole from a hole in the ground when he became president. He was little more than the "pleasant face" on the operation, a lot like Dubya is now-- and featuring a lot of the same players, too, unfortunately.

About ten years ago before we met, my wife was dating a guy who's dad was a high-powered attorney in DC. He was also in a number of meetings with Ronnie in the 1980s, where several important decisions were being made. Most of the time, Reagan slept through these, and they only disturbed him when his signature was needed on some document or other.

I cannot take joy in the passing of another person, even if it was Reagan. Having a close relative with Alzheimer's, and watching that person and my family suffer, is hardly something I'd wish on ANYONE.

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wellstone dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:41 PM
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5. I was thinking about Paul today
as I listened to Prairie Home Companion. I can't hear that show without remembering how Garrison handled that first show after Paul died. The Guy Noir segment was perfect. And then Garrison said, "They should name a city after him. (pause) But then I realized they already did, this one." Of course PHC is broadcast in St. Paul.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:54 PM
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7. I won't take any joy in it
But I won't be saying any prayers for the repose of his soul either.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 12:48 AM
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9. Yeah that stuff's much easier when you're an athiest! (n/t)
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 12:29 PM
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10. Better now than closer to the election
That's what I'll say about it.

Dan Brown
Saint Paul, Minnesota
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 05:37 PM
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11. I'm merely indifferent and rolling my eyes
at all this near-canonization of the second most harmful president in U.S. history.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 06:49 PM
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12. Watching the little bit of TV coverage I did...
I swear, if the man hadn't died from complications due to Alzheimer's, they would have credited him with curing it.

What scares me now is that the push to get his name & likeness EVERYWHERE is going to pick up major steam. There WILL be a crusade to get him on some currency. How long after someone's been dead can they be put on a stamp? I'd be willing to bet they will make an exception and put him on a series within weeks.
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 10:29 PM
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13. Then everything about Iran/Contra will come out
The scandals, the administration officials resigning in disgrace, G.H.W.'s Christmas pardons.

If honoring Wellstone gave the right-wing nutballs fits, it'll be worse if they try to ride this Reagan thing until the election.

Like I said above, it's better that it's this far away from the election.

I don't think it'll stem the anti-Bush tide.

Two editorials in the Sunday Star Tribune meticulously pointed out that Gonzalez (sp?), Bush's White House counsel, cautioned Bush that the plan to commit war crimes by torturing prisoners required a statement by the President that the Geneva Convention, by which the world and the US has lived for more than a half century, didn't apply.

A paper thin covering over for those bastards, knowing that they can be held responsible for war crimes under US domestic law.

We impeached a President over a consensual liaison. Yet, now we have a President complicit in conspiracy to commit acts upon prisoners that offend the US Constitution's ban on "cruel and unusual punishment," the standard by which the United States has gauged its compliance with the Geneva Convention. All under the flip cover that the Geneva Conventions "didn't apply."

Gonzalez also specifically informed Bush that the penalty for committing war crimes "includes the death penalty."

How numb a nation do we have to be to know we are being "led" by a man who has conspired to commit war crimes and may still be conspiring to commit more war crimes possibly warranting the imposition of the death penalty, before we wake up?

Reagan is peanuts next to the sociopathic craven lunacy of G. W. Bush, or as Nostradamus called him, Mabus (moving the "M" and the "a" to make an "H" gives us gWbus(H).)

Dan Brown
Saint Paul, Minnesota
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