What were some of the most stupid responses you got to the Warren incident?

[Behind the Aegis]

Do NOT post a link to the person's post and be honest and don't cut and paste as to make it sound s/he said something s/he didn't say.

Here are two of the most idiotic ones I got:

Have you stopped to think? No, seriously? Have you paused in the midst of the torch-wielding mob and wondered to yourself, "Could the people who are trying to explain to us what Obama is doing actually know what they're talking about?"

I mean hey, it's a longshot I guess. But maybe - just maybe - somewhere on a political website that hosts what, tens of thousands of people, someone, or sometwo even, might have more a clue than you do?

...No? Thought never occurred to you? Ah well. Continue with the effigy-burning.

You have the same rights that I have. They are called individual rights.

[mitchtv]

1. That's a real tough one

there's been so many idiotic rationalizations by true believers

[Warren Stupidity]

2. all the variations on: clever move that will de-bigot Warren.

Which would account for about a brazillion posts. They all remind me of the explanations for why congressional capitulation was really a very clever move that would work to our advantage. Oddly, or not, some of the same people made both arguments.

[IndianaGreen]

23. Ahhh, the old "keep the powder dry" argument in support of appeasement

I remember that well. Thanks!

[Solon]

3. Most likely the posts that claimed that if Homosexuals stayed in the closet...

the discrimination disappears, so they don't have it as bad as any other oppressed group.

I alerted on their posts, but damn was that outrageous! :wow:

[racaulk]

7. You'll be glad to know that that user has been tombstoned.

If you and I are thinking of the same person, that is.

Yeah, some of his stuff was truly outrageous. His arguments seemed to boil down to "you can hide your sexual orientation by 'acting straight,' but I can't hide the color of my skin." But the thing is, he seemed to have no idea how offensive his statements were, no matter how much we tried to tell him otherwise. We could post them here, but too many of them have been deleted by the mods.

I'm just glad he's gone. :)


Edited to correct punctuation.

[Solon]

10. It wasn't just one poster though, and yes, I know about that one...

There were at least 3 others, 4 if you count a post from months ago from a poster that's still around. Whether its a good or bad thing, I have a bad habit of remembering some of the outrageous posts that certain posters have made, some of those posts were deleted, yet I still remember them, almost word for word.

The post this 4th poster made about what I said above was never deleted, her posts comparing homosexuality to alcoholism were deleted, but I still remember them.

[racaulk]

20. Oh you're right, it's definitely more than one person.

But that latest guy just stuck out in my mind. His comment that he has "little empathy for gay white people" made him memorable, unfortunately.

There are a few others that I still have my eye on that, amazingly, are still here.

[Solon]

25. On yes, and I remember one person who said: "I'm not going to stick out my neck for gay marriage."

Some really offensive bullshit on here.

[MNBrewer]

36. We're on our own. As usual.

[Solon]

62. You are never on your own, some straight people may not stick their necks out...

for civil rights, but others will step up in their place and gladly do so. :hug:

[jesus_of_suburbia]

74. We have many straight allies, especially on this board.

I'm just hurt that we don't have more.

[Midlodemocrat]

13. Who was it? I have a lot of the bigots on ignore.

[racaulk]

16. I just sent you a PM. n/t

[racaulk]

4. How about this gem?

Come on, how about some honesty on DU...you were PRAYING for Obama to fail

You supported Hillary.

You DESPISED Obama.

You blamed African Americans for the Prop 8 result.

You never wondered if your own vile bigotry contributed to the Prop 8 result.

You think you are 'progressives'.

Truth is, you're as bigoted as Warren.

You DESPERATELY wanted Obama to fail.

You prayed he would.

You were waiting for ANY opportunity to disown him.

You chose one, a whole month before his inauguration.

You were thrilled!

Now you could piss on him before he even got started.

Admit it, you hate him.

You loathe him.

You always have.

Why?

Because he's not Hillary.

And because he's AFRICAN AMERICAN.

And THAT is what this is all about.

Remember, you blame African Americans for the Prop 8 result.

Let's cut the crap.

The bigoted militants who have turned on Obama have done it for one reason only:

BECAUSE HE IS AFRICAN AMERICAN.

AND THAT IS THE ABSOLUTE REASON FOR THE OBAMA HATE-FEST ON DU THE LAST TWO DAYS.

RACIST SCUM - THE LOT OF YOU.

[Midlodemocrat]

6. Holy crap. So now the GLBT community is full of racists?

I am SO out of the loop.

:crazy:

[racaulk]

8. Yeah, that was pretty much the assertion.

Not just GLBT DUers, but all DUers that are opposed to Warren delivering the invocation. You see, the opposition has NOTHING to do with Warren and his views on gays and women. The opposition all boils down to Obama's skin color. Nothing more, nothing less.

The user was tombstoned shortly after making this remark. A few minutes later, they were reinstated. She posted another OP later declaring that she's now on a self-imposed exile from DU, but she's still technically an active member after posting this sweeping condemnation against a large group of DUers.

This all came down Friday night, and I'm still pissed about it. I don't take being called "racist scum" lightly.

:mad:

[jonnyblitz]

9. the person who posted that is a rockstar in the DU Obama

picture lover community. she is much beloved by many. :puke:

[Warren Stupidity]

11. well 'rockstar' in the sense of 'tombstoned'

the OP is dead to us

[jonnyblitz]

12. she was untombstoned 10 minutes afer her tombstoning and

then she wrote an apology claiming she was leaving anyway even though she was resurrected and i haven't seen her since UNLESS she was RE-TOMBSTONED.

[Warren Stupidity]

14. no shit

I didn't know. OK that is another act of idiocy by the owners. Homophobia is in fact acceptable.

[QC]

15. She's still a member. n/t

[racaulk]

17. Yeah, there was even an OP posted in honor of her tombstoning.

The writer of the OP lamenting that such "a good DUer" had been tombstoned, as if she had been the latest victim of the "gay agenda." What-the-hell-ever. :eyes:

I just hope her self-imposed exile will last longer than her tombstoning did, because I doubt I will ever have anything civil to say to her again.

[jonnyblitz]

21. i saw that one and I think I posted a snarky comment on it.

I forget.

[bluedawg12]

27. Didn't she have a swan song

that was locked right quick? That gay agenda again.

Don't they even realize they are using right wing phrases? Gay agenda. How Fallwell.

[racaulk]

30. Yeah, she posted a GBCW thread.

Where she "lost the plot."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=8012406

My only regret is that I was in bed when she made this OP. If I had been online, I would have had a few things to say in response.

[bluedawg12]

56. Four flushes and a funeral.

Too bad you missed it, next time, racaulk, next time. :evilgrin:

But here's what the tune sounded like:

:hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts:

[Zuiderelle]

19. Yeah, that one was shocking.

And that someone who claims that we're all racists because we object to the Warren pick was reinstated after being banned for that... That's even more shocking than the post.

[racaulk]

42. That is very true.

There have been a lot of things said and done here over the last few days that have surprised me. Seeing her reinstated was a huge shock and was my biggest "WTF?" moment. I really, really have a hard time wrapping my head around that one. Although she decided to leave on her own accord, she doesn't belong here and is free to come back at any time.

Amazing.

[DarkTirade]

5. That second one was the one that pissed me off enough that I actually responded.

I don't usually post on GD... but god damn. That was just fucking stupid.

[Zuiderelle]

18. In the spirit of being only as good as one's last performance I submit:

if you want to manufacture enemies here there are many in front of you. luckily for you, we white hetero's who care will continue to fight for your rights in SPITE of you

[hulklogan]

22. The Heterosexual's burden - to stand up for the uppity elite ungrateful gays.

What would we do without them?

[racaulk]

31. Their load must be heavy. How I pity them.

:crazy:

[bluedawg12]

24. Three lulu's:

Kick if you've tired of Warren threads spamming DU.
.......

Gay is a secondary, possibly amorphous attribute. Race is primary and immutable.
........

But I do believe there is a distinction between violent homophobes (who somehow feel "threatened" by gays), and those who are tolerant, but not 100% accepting.

The latter group becomes restless when one of their own (Obama) unfairly becomes the subject of misplaced GLBT outrage.

....

[Behind the Aegis]

26. Yeah, those are pretty bad.

The second is just stupid! How on earth could human sexuality be a "secondary, possibly amorphous attribute?"

And the last one....I am so SICk of hearing about "tolerance" in regards to GLBT people. Sometimes, IMHO, they are WORSE than "faggot" screaming bigots because the former don't realize they are bigots.

[bluedawg12]

32. The funny thing in all of this, is that his most adamant supporters

refuse to admit that PE Obama could actually change, evolve in his views on same sex marriage and admit he was wrong about Warren, or some how get out of it gracefully.

But mostly about gay rights, I don't expect he could change the Warren performance now.

However, Obama could evolve his views from 2004 and 2007 about same sex marriage, especially because the national sentiment towards these issues is changing, as people become more familiar with these ideas due to gay protest and activism!

They give the man little credit, or try to bring him down to their lowest common denominator.

Edit: Spell check

[Starry Messenger]

28. The guy who wrote the second one just got pizza.

He was nuts.

[bluedawg12]

33. Oh really.

:evilgrin:

[Starry Messenger]

35. Well, ok I walked right into that.

:)

He was a special kind of nuts. I have been watching out for his demise. I'm just glad I was there to see it. }(

[racaulk]

37. Who are you talking about?

I missed that post, so I'm not sure which user you're talking about. I'm really curious. :)

Feel free to send a PM if you would like. Thanks!

[Starry Messenger]

43. The dearly departed:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=user_profiles&u_id=223283

[racaulk]

44. Oh yeah, THAT guy!

His tombstone is very sweet. I posted several bits of his inanity in our currently running "Best of DU" thread, things that have since been deleted. He was a real peach.

Good fucking riddance! :hi:

[bluedawg12]

38. I just saw his dearly departed marker.

He was out waay out there. Glad to see his determined little weasel self laid to eternal rest.

MPK you little devil. :evilgrin:

[Starry Messenger]

45. Cheers bluegawg12!

There's a song I think of on days like this when the jerks come out in force.

"As some day it may happen that a victim must be found,
I've got a little list--I've got a little list.
Of society offenders who might well be underground,
And who never would be missed--who
never would be missed!"

[bluedawg12]

53. Cheers back at ya' MPK! :)

:toast:

[mondo joe]

50. That actually makes me feel a lot better. NT

[racaulk]

29. The first in your list was great!

The writer of that OP received the ultimate smackdown! :rofl:

[bluedawg12]

34. ...

Yeah, it was around that time her cork popped completely. :rofl:

These folks are used to being bullies, they are not accustomed, it seems, to gay revolt! :evilgrin:

[MNBrewer]

40. The gays are revolting?

:evilgrin:

a la Stonewall?

[bluedawg12]

52. Better stated: the phobes are revolting, the gays are in revolt!

:evilgrin:

[AntiFascist]

39. "The inauguration is a meaningless event"...

the sheer stupidity of this is overwhelming. Just wait to see how the media plays it up.

[PeaceNikki]

41. The generic "militants suck" tops my list

today.

[jonnyblitz]

47. "the extreme left is as bad as the extreme right"

The implication that being concerned about "rights' issues, be they gay or women's reproductive rights is somehow extremist. I am beginning to wonder who in hell it is that makes up the DU Obama movement if they consider support of these issues "extreme".

[Maven]

46. The many posts saying we're the bigots for not accepting Warren

:eyes:

[jonnyblitz]

49. they are using freeper talking points. nt

[QC]

48. If Warren at the Inauguration Could Feed a Starving Child, Would You Let Him Speak?

If my aunt had balls, would she be my uncle?

[bluedawg12]

54. Spew warning please the next time

you say something hilarious and true!

those dumb sh*t "what if's" are really: WTF's?

[Hepburn]

51. So many to chose from...

...and so little intelligence, IMO.

I would say the worst response I read was the one that basically said, "What is the big deal? He is only going to speak for about 2 minutes."

:eyes:

[David Zephyr]

55. The most stupid? The most insulting? The most condescending? Scientific notation is required.

Too many too count.

There's a new twist though that appeared in Skinner's "let's all be reasonable" thread from one who suggests that the GLBT community deserves the insult by Obama for supporting Hillary more than Obama in the primaries. We deserved it. LOL.

I don't recognize the DU anymore.

[QC]

57. Here's the most stupid, bar none.

By making a fuss about Warren we are actually giving him publicity and making him more famous. (At the same time, putting him on a televised event that a billion or so people will watch does nothing to make him better known.)

[jonnyblitz]

58. they really aren't too collectively bright,.

:crazy:

[QC]

59. Well, the world looks very different

when viewed through the bottom of a Kool-Aid pitcher.

[foxfeet]

60. Awww, poor widdle bibbiez.

The victimization card is getting really old. It'd be one thing if he'd actually turned his back on his constituencies concerns, rather than a simple gesture of reconciliation. Good gawd.


This was a fun one, written in response to the following exchange:

HIM: Hez already answered that question many times:
Why, Mr. Obama, not even on your first day as the president of the United States, are you pandering to the other side, after having 8 years of their disastrous policies destroy the country?
Hez made in abundently clear that he intends to be the President of all Americans, not just Democrats. That means hez gunna leave a place at the table for the other side whether they deserve it or not, unlike the repukes have been doing all these years.

ME: And yet the women, Jews and LGBT folks who actually paid for their ticket to the celebration in time, money and labor, are now told that their participation will be limited to cooking, doing the dishes, doing the flowers and table settings, and providing the entertainment.

HIM: As above.

[QC]

65. Look everybody! We have the dumbest post right here! n/t

[foxfeet]

66. I hope you read the entire thing.

I did a poor job of separating the stupid response from my post that elicited the BS.

[Nightflurry]

61. Someone Just Posted Exodus International Crap

They just had this copied and pasted. I hope they forgot a sarcasm tag but really.. wtf?


Seven Things I Wish
Pro-Gay People Would Admit
by Bob Davies
1. I wish they would admit that many people are not happy with their homosexuality or lesbianism, and that this conflict is internal, based on legitimate, intelligent religious and moral convictions--not just the result of a so-called "homophobic" society which is forcing guilt upon people who don't conform to a heterosexual ethic.
Stop throwing out the cheap, inaccurate labels like "internalized homophobia" to explain our motivations.
2. I wish they would acknowledge that homosexuals and lesbians can experience significant change in their sexual feelings and desires, even though they may never be totally heterosexual in their sexual thoughts and feelings.
Be honest enough to admit that such change is significant and genuine, even if it isn't complete.
3. I wish they would acknowledge that many former homosexuals and lesbians have found a greater measure of peace and satisfaction after leaving a gay or lesbian lifestyle than they ever experienced while embracing homosexuality.
Not all "ex-gays" are miserable, plotting how to secretly fulfill their homosexual lusts without being caught.
4. I wish they would acknowledge that many former homosexuals and lesbians have genuine joy in their marriages.
Most former gays and lesbians don't get married in a futile attempt to "escape" homosexuality; they marry as a natural consequence of resolving that issue in their lives.
5. I wish they would acknowledge that all people have as much right to pursue a heterosexual lifestyle as they do to pursue homosexuality.
Former homosexuals and lesbians should not be harassed and castigated by the gay community. But I have never heard any gay or lesbian leaders speak out against the violence (such as bomb threats and physical/verbal abuse) which some people perpetuate against Exodus ministries.
6. I wish they would stop equating our decision to leave homosexuality with "hatred" and "bigotry" against gays and lesbians.
We don't hate gays; we simply desire to live free of homosexuality. Don't put nasty labels upon our motives. That's being judgmental and unfair.
7. I wish pro-gay religious leaders would admit that their endorsement and promotion of monogamous homosexual relationships is a facade.
Many--probably most--men and women involved in long-term partnerships are not sexually monogamous, but gay churches don't discipline members for committing "adultery" outside their "gay marriage." Neither do they discipline gays or lesbians who have sex before entering into a "holy union" with their partner.
Bob Davies is past President of Exodus International and an ex-gay himself. He has been married for nine years.
(Used by permission of the Exodus Standard, P.O. Box 77652, Seattle, WA, 98177.)

[jonnyblitz]

67. i would say this is even DANGEROUS. it seriously fucks

people, especially YOUNG people, up in the head.

[Nightflurry]

68. Oh it's very dangerous

That place is nothing but a reeducation camp that fucks people up in the head and whose graduates have appalling suicide rates.

[Neecy]

63. I have two

One was the guy who wanted to know if we thought the sun rose and set in our bedrooms....like all we ever do is fuck.

Another said he'd support gay marriage if it was different from a "real" marriage.

Hard to believe this crap is coming from DU.

[racaulk]

69. Along the same vein with your first quote,

Another gem in response to the complaints about Warren:

All this complaining over something private you do that no one is trying to take away.

I don't know about you, but I really wish there were enough hours in the day for me to have all this wild, gay sex that people like this seem to THINK that I have. I'd never leave the house! Or better yet, maybe I'd never be home at all, just hopping from one gay orgy to the next! w00t!

[AlCzervik]

64. Something like--"Stop wearing your sexual orientation on your sleeve"

and then one of the threads by Unsane who imo is a raging ahole with an unsatisfying home life.

[Ian David]

70. It's not an insult that Rick Warren compared gays to pizza. The man REALLY likes pizza.

I mean... look at him. Do you think Rick Warren ever met a pizza he didn't like?



Okay, I made that one up.

[racaulk]

71. Here's a new one - Rick Warren is secretly gay!!!1!11!

I don't know if he'll ever come right out and admit it, but I'm 90% sure he is.

Almost every time a prominent person stakes out a position so vociferously against gays, it's suspicious to me.

Someone else being gay has no effect on a straight person's life. A gay couple getting married has zero effect on a straight person's marriage.

There is no logical reason why a straight person should be so viciously against gay marriage or gay anything.

I believe the most vocal critics of gay marriage fall into the "thou doth protest too much" category.

They're trying to convince everyone else how non-gay they are - their religious beliefs contradict who they really are - and the only way they can reconcile the dissonance is to go overboard in the other direction and become publicly very anti-gay.

Larry Craig

Ted Haggard

Many others

I think someday... I don't know when... we'll be adding Rick Warren to that list.

[yardwork]

72. If a person is a jerk, then they must be gay. They're one and the same, right?

Thanks to the mod who locked that thread.

There are quite a number of other nasty threads that could be locked.

[noamnety]

73. Without calling anyone out here

what I've noticed is that some DUers have a remarkable capacity to cut straight to the heart of the Warren issue - which is how badly their feelings were bruised by the gays who said mean things about people who don't support equal rights.

[ronnykmarshall]

75. Your marriage isn't in danger and you know it.

Fucker.