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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 06:28 PM
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James Baker: The Man Behind the Handshake
Edited on Mon Jan-01-07 06:31 PM by seemslikeadream

So, when considering the former Secretary of States involvement in the first Gulf War, it is entirely understandable that the interjection of the name James Baker into the current dialogue on Iraq will have almost certainly enraged the disheveled former dictator whose fear-inspiring epithet The Butcher of Baghdad, has been rendered obsolete by the spiraling sectarian carnage tearing the nations capital apart. It also makes sense that many so-called progressives view Bakers inclusion into the half-baked huddle circle that formulates Iraq policy in Washington as a step in the right direction. After all, the first Gulf War went off without a hitch, militarily speaking, and lacked the world-wide outrage, the looting of the national coffers and the absolute shredding of American credibility that have been the hallmarks of the current Iraq debacle. Why, then, would anyone be so cynical as to not jump for joy over the idea of James Baker infusing a new sense of cohesion into the growing quagmire that is the current Iraq fiasco?

The answer to this question lies in a closer look at Bakers continued activities on behalf of the Bush family, the Carlyle Group and the international oil cartel. Only through an analysis of Bakers twisted maze of political contacts and business associates does his place in the big picture begin to take shape. Once these connections have been established, the role that Baker has been asked to play in the pacification of Iraq can be understood much more clearly.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 06:39 PM
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1. James Baker hired me to bypass US sanctions on Iraq
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 08:30 PM
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2. seemslikeadream, do you remember that great Senator from Idaho
Frank Church and the Church Committee's 14 reports about the lawlessness and dangers concealed in our national security community? Bear with me, I'm not going off-topic here by bringing this up because James A. Baker III and the same criminals are mentioned throughout the following links and articles. This is what Gerald Ford enabled by pardoning Nixon and bringing Cheney and Rumsfeld and Poppy and Baker et al into his unelected stint as POTUS.

Democrat and military intelligence veteran (in WWII Burma) Frank Church knew, beyond any doubt, what we were facing back in 1975 when he issued this warning in regards to his investigative findings about the NSA:
"I know the capacity that is there to make tyranny total in America, and we must see to it that this agency and all agencies that possess this technology operate within the law and under proper supervision, so that we never cross over that abyss. That is the abyss from which there is no return."

"Back to Church" by Chris Mooney 11-5-2001

Amy Goodman interviewed the Church Committee's chief counsel, Frederick Schwarz, in May of last year.

"Frank Church and the Abyss of Warrantless Wiretapping" by John Nichols 4-26-06

"No Place to Hide" by Nat Hentoff 1-13-06,hentoff,71743,6.html

Spartacus.Schoolnet Frank Church profile

I hope this New Year gives all of US the ability to do something with all this truth, I sincerely believe that most of the world is teetering at the edge of that "abyss" and that the BFEE will push as many as it is allowed to over it-as it has already done in the past few years.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 09:32 PM
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3. The Crime of the Century
Edited on Mon Jan-01-07 09:32 PM by seemslikeadream
Yes we are at the abyss, I just want to know why no one is stopping them. WHY?

Now they're planning the crime of the century
Well what will it be?
Read all about their schemes and adventuring
It's well worth a fee
So roll up and see
And they rape the universe
How they've gone from bad to worse
Who are these men of lust, greed, and glory?
Rip off the masks and let see.
But that's no right - oh no, whats the story?
There's you and there's me
That can't be right
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 09:57 PM
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5. On September 11th 2001 James Baker railed against the Church Committee
(that fact is in the first hyperlink "Back to Church") that includes all the innocent Americans that were on various political "lists" that were targeted for decades. This has continued and many of us can feel the forces trying to push us over the edge of the abyss as we keep our balance.

We are there-there's no doubt about it.

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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:34 AM
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11. Because of Contelpro and how it has effected our ability to mobilize.
Edited on Tue Jan-02-07 01:34 AM by shance
'They', or the power abusers have been doing it secretly and divisively for decades.

Where are our gathering places anymore?

We have to gather again, we have to have many leaders, not just a vulnerable few. We have to build our immediate communities and FORGET ABOUT WASHINGTON.

Our focus on Washington leaves us totally vulnderable city wide.

Take a look at New Orleans for a sterling example.

You think New Orleans will be the last city to be destroyed, robbed and taken over?

Think again.

We need to come together by uniting with other activists in our neighborhoods and communities.

We need to gather en masse for days and weeks on end.

We need to create gathering places right now. That is the first step.

They have alot of money to do a lot of damage SLAD, and they are doing it.

We have to break through their secrets by the light of transparency and courage.

Their secrecy allows a cancer to spread and infect the health of our nation and our legal system and our future as a civil society.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 09:52 PM
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4. "Angel in the Whirlwind."

Though we allow that the president might have been unaware of parts of his abstruse actions because he was not the author of his speeches in the conventional sense and members of his staff with input from unnamed guides crafted most of these words, Bush nevertheless delivered these speeches after reviewing them, contemplating them, practicing them and making personal margin notes. More importantly, "he spoke in his official capacity as head of state, representing the state and beyond that the nation," notes Lincoln. So whether Bush was aware of his actions or was puppeted by dominionist allegiances that he and his father had nurtured (or at a deeper level spoke for fraternal societies), occultists in and behind government knew exactly what they were doing. Their choice of words and actionsfrom the presidents speeches to the council he received from members of an elite, top secret cell of spiritual authorities in Washington (whom I will leave unnamed for the time being)reveal subtle but informing truths: words were placed in the presidents mouth to be spoken in mystic harmony of a sacred craft, an otherworldly discourse, which the men behind the president, the voices behind the voice, believed would launch the Kingdom of God on Earth with Washington as its seat if these words were uttered at the right moment in history and from chosen men of God.

Even later, when some in the public were taking courage that the midterms backlash of November 2006 had sufficiently restrained the administrations dreams of playing a vital role in Armageddon, behind the scenes in Washington DC this influential group of powerful men retained faith in their paranormal forces. Setting their eyes on 2008 and beyond, they were not for the moment concerned if congress or even the executive branch changed hands now and again. They had received what they wantedofficial invitation to supernaturalism by the nations leaders and, for sufficient time, conformity by the majority of uninitiated Americans. An Angel from the Whirlwind spread its powerful wings, and a new epoch in American history was ushered in; a time when the government of the U.S. was intentionally brought under influence to dark angelic power.

This is not a daring statement. The connection between the presidents speeches, possible signals to the family of spiritual advisors, his administrations subsequent actions, coalescence of congress and for a while the majority of Americans, set the rules for cosmic game play in action as defined by the sacred texts of all major religions, including the Bible. Invitation to angels by elected officials combined with passive civilian conformity is key, as we shall see later, to opening doorways for supernatural agents to engage social governance. This is a tenant of demonology. Spirits go where they are invited, whether to possess an individual or to take dominion over a region.

Thus parts of my synopsis require knowledge of the supernatural and belief in prophecy. I contend that between the years 2001-2006 the nation became so disposed in following and not challenging unprecedented changes to longstanding U.S. policies including the Christian rules for just war, that the powerful force known to the Illuminati as the "Moriah Conquering Wind," a.k.a. "the Angel in the Whirlwind" accepted the administrations invitation and enthroned itself in the nations capital. Immediately after, it cast its eyes on the ancient home of the Bab-Ili where the coveted Gate of the Illi had opened once before. Why was George W. Bush hell-bent on taking the U.S. into Iraq/Babylon, the home of the Etemenenanki (House of the Foundation of Heaven and Earth, the Tower of Babel) even though Iraq was not connected to 9/11? It is argued that he went there for oil or strategic placement of a military base for what some in the war college see as the inevitable Armageddon between the U.S., Iran, Israel, Russia, China and other nations. But according to the British press (7), Bush let his real reasons slip out during a meeting with Palestinian leaders in June 2003 when he admitted that he had committed the United States to enter Babylon because, "God told me to invade Iraq."
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 10:02 PM
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6. If we accept that then God has put him in the WH to punish our nation.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 10:25 PM
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8. Is their god your god?

Wednesday, February 28, 2001

Mr. Speaker, In his inaugural address President Bush left us with one profound image: the specter of an "Angel in the Whirlwind" guiding the fate of our nation. Democracy in America has survived and expanded despite the numerous whirlwinds and storms. At several critical periods our ship of state could have been blown off course and been wrecked on the rocks: from the challenges of Aaron Burr and Jefferson Davis, to the grabbing greed which spawned the depression and the racist totalitarian threat of Hitler's Nazism. Always, in the past, the churning American political process has produced the leadership capable of conquering crises. But now we are confronted with a new kind of subtle and invisible emergency. We are confronting an enemy that has no guns. Internal smugness, arrogance, and the lack of empathy and compassion are attacking the moral spinal cord of the nation. In a previous inaugural address President Clinton correctly identified America as the "indispensable nation." Will the "Angel in the Whirlwind" guide us to new leaders who will know how to use our great wealth and power to fulfill this mission? At critical and pivotal points in our past, that great "Angel in the Whirlwind" has delivered magnificent saviors: Thomas Jefferson with his bold ideas and actions; Abraham Lincoln, frontier toughness with compassion far beyond any of his peers; Franklin Roosevelt with the vision and decisiveness that ended depression hardships and defeated Hitler. Now prosperity has brought the United States to a different kind of pivotal point in history. The question is, shall a nation with the unprecedented means to enhance survival and the resources to facilitate a less difficult pursuit of happiness for all of its people; shall such a nation at this critical moment choke on its own pettiness and greed thus rendering itself morally disabled forever. We pray for deliverance by the "Angel in the Whirlwind."


Angel in the whirlwind,
Tell us where you've been;
Come steer us through the storm,
Halt all this public sin.
Angel in the whirlwind
Blow forth great truths;
All men are born equal,
Some men die great;
Profiles in courage
Never come too late.
Lincoln in the whirlwind
Blew powerful justice down:
Emancipation proclamation,
Magnificent sensation,
Plain ordinary people
Transformed to noble creations.
Sailors in the whirlwind
Forsake all ease,
Typhoons still lurk near,
Patriots must not fear.
Angel in the whirlwind,
Jefferson at your side,
Ships ashore at Normandy,
In every boat you ride.
Protect our future fate,
Martin King's posterity
Is waiting at the gate.
Angel in the whirlwind
Wrestle with the terror:
Tornado twisted greed;
Volcanoes belching
Ashes of indifference;
Human kind's highest hope
Strangling on a golden rope;
Merciful empire
That might've been,
Critically infected now
By the virus of public sin;
Giant graves reserved for midget men.
Angel in the whirlwind
Stay to save the brave and free,
Bring back judicial integrity,
Point us toward eternity,
Come steer us through new storms,
Angel in the whirlwind.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 11:08 PM
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9. Nope. I know the Pharisees well enough though.
Saducees too. BFEE is full of them both. But that isn't my God, seemslikeadream. Certainly isn't the Gospel of Jesus Christ that is being preached by all these front organizations and whatever espouses death, destruction, greed and all that. There is a darkside and all the mumbo-jumbo that proceeds out of 43's vocal delivery mechanism could be directed and scripted by something along the lines of what those cultists follow or via the use of advanced tech.

So if God put the Decider in the WH through a stolen election and a thoroughly corrupted system it is to punish the nation(s)-that is my unshakable belief. I'm not a fundamentalist. Or cultist. I'm a Christian.

I'm not afraid of any of that BFEE stuff. I know you aren't either.

I believe in the separation of Church and State and in our shredded Constitution and Bill of Rights-not HOMELAND(tm) too. That's where I'm at spiritually as a Christian and politically as an American living in a corrupted national security state.

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 10:05 PM
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7. Kingdom of God on Earth



The Rutherford Institute was founded at the behest of the Reverend R. J. Rushdoony of Chalcedon, Inc., located in Vallecito CA. He also served on the board of directors along with multimillionaire Howard Ahmanson, Jr. co-founder of the Allied Business PAC. Both men are members of the Council for National Policy. Rev. Rushdoony is credited as being the father of Christian Reconstructionism a belief that says democracy is a heresy and seeks to establish a Theocracy ruled by biblical law as our form of government.

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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 11:58 PM
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10. The Rise of The Religious Right in The Republican Party
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 01:38 AM
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12. James Baker is representing the Saudi Royal's against the 9-11 families lawsuit's
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