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European Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 07:40 PM
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If Dems can't beat back Bush on "surge"--can't find words angry enough.
It will just prove that Dems can't deliver, even with overwhelming public opinion on their side--like the past six years.
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ddbaj Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 07:42 PM
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1. Your beef is with the constitution.
The decision to increase troop levels belongs to the president, other than be against it, what can the dems do?
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European Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 07:44 PM
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2. cut off funding--like Vietnam.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 08:01 PM
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14. Not the same...
Edited on Mon Jan-08-07 08:01 PM by SaveElmer
By the time Congress cut off VietNam funding there were almost no troops left in there...

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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 07:45 PM
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3. Snow-job even admitted in today's presser
Bush will go forward even if Congress cuts funding. Anger at the Dems is pretty counter-productive at this stage.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 07:46 PM
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4. Cut off funding.
Here is a question about the constitution, the Way to Do things Properly: Isn't congress the one that is supposed to declare war?
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 07:48 PM
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6. Shrub claims the IWR gives him the authorization
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 07:51 PM
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8. since the war was based on lies, so was IWR
they need to revisit the legality of IWR
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 07:57 PM
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11. An interesting point I saw brought up once was the idea of withdrawing the IWR
I think that would provoke a Constitutional show-down though...probably much the same effect as investigating the legality in the first place. Still, an interesting idea.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 07:55 PM
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9. he claims he was elected, twice, also.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 07:47 PM
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5. impeach
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 07:49 PM
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7. You expect President Cheney (gag) to withdraw troops?
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 07:57 PM
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10. naw, would have to get rid of them all.
Down to Pelosi. I know impeachment and removal from office is just a dream, but still. Now, what can they do? How about stop working, stop passing bills, stop working on bills, bring the gvt to a halt?
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 08:01 PM
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13. I want to see Dick & George behind bars, but practically speaking
I think the best we (as Dems) can do right now is to peel away republican Senators and Representatives. Looks to me like that's happening as they realize that '08 is going to be another electoral bloodbath for them. It's not nearly fast enough, but I just don't see anything else happening.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 08:00 PM
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12. there are way too many warmonger/aipac Dems
their allegience is certainly not to we the people of the US. :(
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