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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 10:51 AM Original message |
CNBC Reports: Chavez to Nationalize Phone Co.'s...Verizon Stock |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
1. OMG-- it's 1956 all over again.... :) |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:05 AM Response to Reply #1 |
11. lol! |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
2. bummer for them... |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 10:58 AM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Agree....and the US used to have "Utilities Regulation." |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:13 AM Response to Reply #2 |
15. Are you sure we should be shouting - though we know that |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Don't worry, Chavez will make it better by selling you oil for cheap. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
3. CHAOS -- MAYHEM -- |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. True. |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
4. Cue anti-chavez crowd: |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
6. No wonder BushCo hates Chavez. |
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Future Principal (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
7. good. I've been screaming for public ownership of utilities for years |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 10:59 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. It's getting harder and harder for the Ken Lay types to make a buck |
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roamer65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
8. Bravo Hugo! |
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Mika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
12. OMG! Investors will have to look elsewhere to screw someone. n/t |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
13. CNN has the stock up $0.43 .... |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:17 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Yeah, I don't see anything tanking |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:17 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. It's what the CNBC Reporter was "breathlessly" announcing and I should |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:31 AM Response to Reply #13 |
23. Here's a link from Bloomberg News about it......... |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
14. He is going about this the wrong way. |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:18 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. "decree" = "executive order" = "signing statement" ?? |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:25 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Until the US governemnt tells Americans he's not a dictator. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:53 AM Response to Reply #19 |
31. I don't approve of signing statements. Do you? |
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ShaneGR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 12:32 PM Response to Reply #31 |
45. Because for some people its ok to wield absolute executive power if you agree with them... |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 06:27 AM Response to Reply #31 |
65. Part of the democratic process and 1 example of exec's ability |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 04:58 PM Response to Reply #31 |
75. First you have to figure out Venezuela's legal system |
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Missy M (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:25 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Perhaps Chavez is doing this for the good of the.... |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:37 AM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Doing good by becoming a dictator will hurt his country in the long run. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:41 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Just like Bush! Oh, wait; Bush was appointed, and Chavez was ELECTED. |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. So were Hitler and Mussolini,being a dictator is about more than whether or not elections take place |
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Missy M (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:59 AM Response to Reply #26 |
33. I hardly think nationalizing the utilities makes Chavez a dictator,... |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 12:01 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. May I ask how an undemocratic action will democratize the economy... |
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Missy M (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. So you think the "undemocratic" action will not help the.... |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Why couldn't he have worked with the legislature to pass a law... |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 06:43 AM Response to Reply #34 |
66. imagine paying what it actually costs to run a telephone service |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:56 AM Response to Reply #20 |
32. Absolute power will corrupt anyone, even those with the best intentions... |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 12:27 PM Response to Reply #32 |
41. Why do you think he has absolute power? |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #32 |
61. What is your real concern? Chavez isn't sending peones to Guantanamo, |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:29 AM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Having read several articles reporting this event |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:35 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. well, like I said, that information was based on the report by NPR |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
25. What a great idea...nationalize the countries utilities.............. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
27. Adelante. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
30. Will Chavez require warrants to wiretap people? |
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Missy M (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 12:12 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Do we under the current administration? |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. I see a problem with that, and I am trying to stop that... |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. And you have now asserted a new abuse of power |
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Missy M (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 12:34 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. I fully agree with you that there should be checks on power.... |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. You're so willing to excuse tyranny when it comes from someone you support... |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
44. * makes it okay for others to do things that are beyond conventional |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
37. The Government Does the Right to Nationalize Industries |
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Missy M (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. I agree Venezuela should pay fair compensation.... |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. Oh, So The System Was Privatized? |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 12:38 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. This fact is mentioned in passing in the articles I read. |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
39. Booting American corporations is a great idea. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
47. In the long term this will screw them |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Not really, or rather it depends. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. "Fair compensation" |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. We do this all the time here with eminent domain |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 12:51 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. I have a problem with eminent domain too |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 12:54 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. So we are a socialist dictatorship? |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 01:04 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. No |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
56. How is this any different from eminent domain? nt. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Here's how |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. That would be a distinction without a difference. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Question |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 02:24 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Actually yes I do. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 03:30 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. What type of business do you engage in? (nt) |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 09:20 AM Response to Reply #63 |
67. Why would that be any of your business? |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 11:36 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. This is why |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 11:42 AM Response to Reply #68 |
70. You're coming uncomfortably close to invoking the slippery slope argument |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 11:51 AM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Fair Enough |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 04:23 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Actually if I said that I misspoke. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Ok |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 04:53 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. The united states' phone infrastructure got where it is today |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 10:50 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. Not true |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
64. As already posted, in LBN, the enabling law has been used since Carlos Andres Perez' presidency |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 11:39 AM Response to Reply #64 |
69. Irrelevant |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
76. Prepare for the propaganda war efforts to be redoubled |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-10-07 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
77. What currency conversion are they looking at? |
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