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EdwardM
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Wed Jan-17-07 12:46 AM Original message |
Poll question: Do you support Life imprisonment for 1st time serious child molesters. |
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wtmusic
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:03 AM Response to Original message |
1. 'every statistic shows that they almost always reoffend' |
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EdwardM
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:08 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. I've never heard of these 20 percent charts. |
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RaleighNCDUer
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:07 AM Response to Original message |
2. There's a lot of misinformation here. |
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wtmusic
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:12 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Good points, all |
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frogcycle
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:22 AM Response to Reply #2 |
12. but when it comes down to it |
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RaleighNCDUer
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:30 AM Response to Reply #12 |
26. Because, in a compassionate society we do not punish the mentally |
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Hippo_Tron
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:46 AM Response to Reply #12 |
40. Because it's more expensive to keep them locked up |
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JHB
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Wed Jan-17-07 10:17 AM Response to Reply #40 |
87. Just because I'm in a nit mood, I'll correct that: |
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Hippo_Tron
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #87 |
94. I actually meant to say there would be a 0% recidivism rate |
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EdwardM
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:25 AM Response to Reply #2 |
15. I could agree to something like this. |
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madeline_con
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Wed Jan-17-07 02:05 AM Response to Reply #2 |
59. First offense is usually not a "first" offense. |
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sandnsea
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
97. That's why priests got treatment |
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Toucano
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:07 AM Response to Original message |
3. When mental illness is not involved |
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frogcycle
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:27 AM Response to Reply #3 |
19. Hospitals? |
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madeline_con
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Wed Jan-17-07 02:01 AM Response to Reply #19 |
56. Yeh, but instead of guards, there are turnkeys in scrubs. |
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frogcycle
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Wed Jan-17-07 02:03 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. with really big clubs |
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madeline_con
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Wed Jan-17-07 02:09 AM Response to Reply #58 |
63. And hypodermics. n/t |
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Toucano
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Wed Jan-17-07 08:29 AM Response to Reply #19 |
72. Hospitals with treatment. |
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sandnsea
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Wed Jan-17-07 02:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
103. Permanently, yes they do |
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johnaries
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:11 AM Response to Original message |
5. This is not a black/white issue, although I understand |
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madeline_con
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:16 AM Response to Original message |
7. Other. DP |
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EdwardM
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:17 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. What's DP? |
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madeline_con
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:23 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. death penalty |
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frogcycle
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:25 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. that works n/t |
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madeline_con
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:32 AM Response to Reply #16 |
29. I haven't heard the "so, you'd kill the mentally ill?" thing yet. |
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frogcycle
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:43 AM Response to Reply #29 |
35. sorry, you won't hear it |
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EdwardM
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:26 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Sorry, I cannot support the death penalty for any reason. |
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frogcycle
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:28 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. well, that is an oxymoron |
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EdwardM
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:29 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. They are not a threat as long as they are behind bars. |
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madeline_con
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:30 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Is he a child molester? |
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EdwardM
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:31 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. uh, He is far worse than a child molestor. |
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frogcycle
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:35 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. let me propose that we not |
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EdwardM
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:41 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Like I said, this is less a punishment case and more of a protecting the children thing. |
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madeline_con
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:46 AM Response to Reply #31 |
39. "First time serious" |
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EdwardM
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:47 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. I defined what I consider serious in my first post |
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frogcycle
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:53 AM Response to Reply #41 |
50. definitely wrong? |
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MonkeyFunk
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Wed Jan-17-07 05:13 AM Response to Reply #31 |
70. John Wayne Gacy |
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frogcycle
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Wed Jan-17-07 08:49 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. well good |
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Bunny
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Wed Jan-17-07 05:30 AM Response to Reply #31 |
71. Uh...John Wayne Gacy was fried, a long time ago. |
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madeline_con
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:44 AM Response to Reply #28 |
37. Point is, if he was released, raping kids would not be his |
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madeline_con
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Wed Jan-17-07 02:00 AM Response to Reply #28 |
55. I'm familiar with Charlie. |
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pitohui
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #22 |
100. that's a very naive statement |
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madeline_con
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:29 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Pervs released from jail ARE a threat to society. n/t |
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EdwardM
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:29 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Thats why I support not releasing them. |
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madeline_con
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:43 AM Response to Reply #24 |
36. That's cool. I take a different POV |
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HoneyBee
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Wed Jan-17-07 08:57 AM Response to Reply #7 |
74. I heard and interesting discussion on NPR regarding this very topic |
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Coventina
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Wed Jan-17-07 09:26 AM Response to Reply #74 |
77. It's called the Law of Unintended Consequences |
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ecstatic
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Wed Jan-17-07 09:54 AM Response to Reply #74 |
82. Unfortunately, you may be correct |
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newyawker99
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Wed Jan-17-07 11:04 AM Response to Reply #74 |
90. Hi HoneyBee!! |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag
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Wed Jan-17-07 12:14 PM Response to Reply #74 |
93. Punishist deviants don't care about the security of the innocent |
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Hosnon
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:17 AM Response to Original message |
9. First Time = Harsh Sentence; Second Time = (True) Life. nt. |
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frogcycle
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:23 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. so for the guy in Missouri |
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Hosnon
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:40 AM Response to Reply #14 |
33. Possibly, possibly not: |
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madeline_con
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:47 AM Response to Reply #14 |
42. Unless he's "mentally ill", in which case he gets a pass.... |
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EdwardM
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:50 AM Response to Reply #42 |
47. that's not what I mean by the mental exception. |
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madeline_con
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:52 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. "... until it is proven he won't reoffend..." |
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EdwardM
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:55 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. It's kinda hard to reoffend when you have no penis. |
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madeline_con
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:58 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Au contraire. See post #52. n/t |
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EdwardM
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Wed Jan-17-07 02:06 AM Response to Reply #53 |
60. It would certainly cut out 90 percent of them. |
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madeline_con
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Wed Jan-17-07 02:08 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Do you want him next door to you? |
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frogcycle
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:58 AM Response to Reply #47 |
54. you do know, i hope |
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Sugar Smack
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:18 AM Response to Original message |
10. Yes, life imprisonment. |
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Roxy66
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:20 AM Response to Original message |
11. Castration...1st offense. |
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frogcycle
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:30 AM Response to Reply #11 |
27. what about females? |
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EdwardM
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:44 AM Response to Reply #27 |
38. Female molestors are extremely rare. |
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frogcycle
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:49 AM Response to Reply #38 |
44. you miss my point |
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EdwardM
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:52 AM Response to Reply #44 |
48. I really don't know |
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madeline_con
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:57 AM Response to Reply #44 |
52. The castration is chemical, isn't it? |
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frogcycle
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Wed Jan-17-07 02:02 AM Response to Reply #52 |
57. well, we've beat this to death |
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madeline_con
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Wed Jan-17-07 02:07 AM Response to Reply #57 |
61. toodles. |
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madeline_con
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:48 AM Response to Reply #27 |
43. Depo provera has the same effect on them. |
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noonwitch
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Wed Jan-17-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #11 |
91. Rape is a crime of violence, not of sex |
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Warren DeMontague
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:26 AM Response to Original message |
17. What I'd like to know is, will the kindly looking man in the priest's collar get the same punishment |
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frogcycle
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:29 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. wouldntcha think? n/t |
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Warren DeMontague
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:34 AM Response to Reply #23 |
30. No, actually I wouldn't. |
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frogcycle
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:37 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. I guess I should have |
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Warren DeMontague
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:49 AM Response to Reply #32 |
45. Yep! |
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madeline_con
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:49 AM Response to Reply #17 |
46. No, the guy in the van can't find Jesus till AFTER he's in jail. n/t |
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Hekate
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Wed Jan-17-07 02:57 AM Response to Original message |
64. Our prisons are now overflowing & are now being outsourced & privatized... |
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Warren DeMontague
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Wed Jan-17-07 03:07 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Maybe if we weren't letting rapists, murderers and child molesters OUT to make more room |
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Hekate
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Wed Jan-17-07 03:20 AM Response to Reply #65 |
67. I agree 100%. The asinine war on drugs has got to stop first. nt |
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Bombtrack
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Wed Jan-17-07 03:14 AM Response to Original message |
66. I support executing most of them, so other |
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OneBlueSky
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Wed Jan-17-07 04:44 AM Response to Original message |
68. I think that blanket statements like that are very dangerous . . . |
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bananarepublican
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Wed Jan-17-07 05:03 AM Response to Original message |
69. Provided that there is absolutely no doubt as to guilt (i.e. no planted evidence). n/t |
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Wed Jan-17-07 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
75. Child molestors have the highest rate of recidivism |
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Wed Jan-17-07 10:09 AM Response to Reply #75 |
86. Don't have an answer either ... |
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OmmmSweetOmmm
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Wed Jan-17-07 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
76. Many child molesters have been victims of molestation themselves. They are mentally and spiritually |
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noonwitch
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Wed Jan-17-07 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
78. I support some judicial discretion in sentencing |
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qanda
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Wed Jan-17-07 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
79. They give their victim a life sentence |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME
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Wed Jan-17-07 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
80. I Say A Mandatory Minimum Of 15 Yrs To Life For First Time Offenders, Depending On Circumstance. |
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Wed Jan-17-07 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
81. Umm... You mean the first time they're actually CAUGHT?! That's a hell yes |
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baldguy
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Wed Jan-17-07 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
83. I worked worked with a child molester. |
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FlaGranny
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Wed Jan-17-07 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
84. My fear is always that |
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alcibiades_mystery
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Wed Jan-17-07 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
85. Ridiculous |
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brentspeak
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Wed Jan-17-07 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
88. What IDIOTS voted for "I don't support jail time for sex offenders"???? |
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Clinton_Co_Regulator
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:42 PM Response to Reply #88 |
96. I did |
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brentspeak
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Wed Jan-17-07 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
89. s/d |
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porphyrian
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Wed Jan-17-07 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
92. How is child molestation NOT mental illness? I reject the premise of the poll. |
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Jim Warren
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
95. Ridiculous |
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Az
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
98. False premise. Child molestors do not choose to be attracted to what they are |
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
99. what study shows that they almost always re-offend? |
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Az
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Wed Jan-17-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. That is an often sited myth |
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Greyhound
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Wed Jan-17-07 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
102. Other, until we adopt real definitions as you have in your preamble. |
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