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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 08:05 PM
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Evidence emerging that Pakistani Intelligence Agencies are supporting Taliban
The most explosive question about the Taliban resurgence here along the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan is this: Have Pakistani intelligence agencies been promoting the Islamic insurgency?

The government of Pakistan vehemently rejects the allegation and insists that it is fully committed to help American and NATO forces prevail against the Taliban militants who were driven from power in Afghanistan in 2001.

Western diplomats in both countries and Pakistani opposition figures say that Pakistani intelligence agencies in particular the powerful Inter-Services Intelligence and Military Intelligence have been supporting a Taliban restoration, motivated not only by Islamic fervor but also by a longstanding view that the jihadist movement allows them to assert greater influence on Pakistans vulnerable western flank.

More than two weeks of reporting along this frontier, including dozens of interviews with residents on each side of the porous border, leaves little doubt that Quetta is an important base for the Taliban, and found many signs that Pakistani authorities are encouraging the insurgents, if not sponsoring them.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/21/world/asia/21quetta.html?ex=1327035600&en=152a1f38b42430c2&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 08:11 PM
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1. Oh loverly.
:grr:
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 08:13 PM
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2. Kick and Rec, because this is a big story.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 08:31 PM
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3. The New York Times is running about a year behind the blogs, aren't they?
Do you think they put this story in their Editorial Calendar around November 2005 and decided to sit on it for a while?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 09:10 PM
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4. Afghanistan is not news.
It's the B war.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 09:23 PM
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5. Duh award - the former head of Pakistani Intel said he supported Taliban yrs ago -
Edited on Sat Jan-20-07 09:24 PM by papau
he refers to the Afghanistan occupation by the US -

The BBC had the audio on line a while back.

He also said he is not giving active aid to the Taliban.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 09:24 PM
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6. Evidence emerging???
Where the hell has the NYT been for the past several years? It was proven YEARS ago that the head of Pakistan's ISI, General Ahmed, paid Atta $100 grand just weeks before 911. And guess where General Ahmed was on 911...he was in DC visiting members of the House & Senate Intel Committees. Why was he allowed to QUIETLY resign when his connection to Al Qaeda was discovered?
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 09:26 PM
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7. We live in the United States of Amnesia, George
Unless an item is on the news every night while we're eating dinner, our walnut-sized brains can't seem to retain knowledge of it.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 11:23 AM
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18. No kidding. Vidal was right about that.
:wtf:
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 10:38 PM
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12. correct
but we've always been at war w. eastasia apparently

the average news reader appears to have no memory at all!
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 10:34 PM
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8. Next week from the Bushies: 'it was a mistake to de-Talibanize
Afghanistan. For national reconciliation, we will bring the Taliban back into the government.'
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 10:35 PM
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9. Up next: The War on Pakistan
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 10:37 PM
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10. wow what was their first clue
i mean me here in southeast louisiana knew this since round about the time of the embassies bombings?

we didn't invade pakistan after 911 even tho they provided similar support to what afghanistan provided because pakistan had the bomb

nothing more noble than that

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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 10:37 PM
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11. OMG!!! The MSM figured out what we've known for 6+ years!!!!
Wow - they are soooo on top of stuff.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 10:40 PM
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13. Didn't they say it was "retired" Paki ISI involved, not current
ISI personell? I saw an article about a year ago that the govt distanced themselves with that little loophole.

Just saying, they no longer represent the official position of the Paki govt.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 10:42 PM
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14. This past week a lot of events picked up in that region
I started tracking them as they were coming in-it may be cover and deception, it may be disinfo, but there were "incidents reported" running the gamut from attempted kidnapping of Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission/PAEC employees in an area where "high grade uranium" was "discovered" to rumors of Osama bin Laden being in Pakistan to the breech of a cease fire between India and Pakistan to air and ground attacks to...well here's the thread-there's a bit of history thrown in for good measure--Pakistan did indeed historically support the Taliban

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2689760
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 10:51 AM
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15. BBC: Pakistan troops killed in blast 1-22-2007
This LBN from BBC link has a lot of good background info.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/6286051.stm

It was added to the thread about the attempted kidnapping of Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission/PAEC "employees" from one week ago, which also has a lot of background and depth to what is happening in that geopolitical area.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2689760
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 11:12 AM
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16. Well, there's a surprise for you. Not.
ISI has worked hand in glove with the Taliban since the mid-1990s.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 11:14 AM
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17. Frontline had a good story on this.
Arguing that the Pakistani intelligence has tacitly supported the Taliban for years.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/taliban/
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