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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 12:32 PM
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Do you think Bush's goal is to sink the US?
Along the lines of the Spanish Armada against Elizabethan England?

Iraq has become such a waste of money no one except Bush and his whores are in favor of it...

So do you think Bush is trying to sabotage our military on purpose?
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 12:33 PM
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1. Yes.
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NotGivingUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 12:34 PM
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2. i have been thinking this for quite a while now. n/t
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 12:36 PM
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3. Hold it the Spanish Armada's goal was
to invade England, not to sink.

Now bush, well if not him the puppeteeers, just listen to Grover Norquiast and his desire to drown the government in a bathtub

Literally those who DO NOT belive in government are in charge... and they have not made their goals secret...

The only thing is that they have not screamed them to the four winds... but their goal to bankrupt the US, so there will be no money for all them evil social services, has been a stated goal for over a generation, if not longer.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 12:40 PM
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4. No, but I do think that
they are keeping the economy at a point that a percentage of young people have no choice but to join the military. Example: friend of my daughter who graduated last spring; she had been raised in foster homes and the care system provides until you graduate high school after that you're on your own. How many 18 year old new grads can provide their own housing ect? She joined the military actually was recruited in school, part of which was pointing out her circumstances.
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 12:44 PM
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5. scandal overload
they've managed to create so many impeachable scandals that they can now get away with murder.

out of the 35 plus scandals in the last 6 years, any one could get them impeached. just when someone starts to focus on one, they move on to the new later and greater one.

they're practicing scandal over load as a form of policy. I think they really want their monarchy and absolute power over all three branches of government. They act like they all ready have it and no one is standing in their way!

-85% jimmy
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 01:05 PM
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10. I used to think that
maybe, just maybe one of the very few good things the BFEE had done was to change the law so that children in the foster care system remained there until they graduated, not until their 18th birthday, that and the law that says homeless children must be allowed to attend school, now I wonder if it was not a way of expanding the military ready pool.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 12:44 PM
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6. Kucinich said as much a few years back
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 12:50 PM
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7. Not Sink It As Much As Fundamentally Change It
Think Feudalism where most people become indentured servants to corporate masters and creditors.

Either that, or they are just smashing and grabbing and preparing an "ark" of sorts where they will hole up while the rest of the world goes to shit (global warming, plague, nukes, pick your global catastrophe/mass human kill-off) and most of the population dies and they are grabbing what they can, while they can w/ no thought for tomorrow (except for how they and theirs can survive). Or so it would seem.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 01:06 PM
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12. To a dictatorship with a unitary executive within the secret government which has no limits.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 01:54 PM
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19. Yep. Yep.Yep.
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teenagebambam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 12:58 PM
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8. No.
If that was his goal, he has succeeded admirably, which would imply he is capable and competent, which he is not.
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against all enemies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 12:59 PM
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9. Mission Accomplished
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 01:54 PM
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18. The *BFEE plan
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Blackdog4241 Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 01:06 PM
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11. No...but I don't think he cares if he does
Some people like to call this presidency "The Bush Crime Family"and I think it's as simple as that.He is trying to get as much power and money as he can for Himself and his Friends to the point that they are above the law and therefore untouchable.
And they're doing a pretty good job of it.
We need to stop them now before it's to late.
IMPEACH NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 01:09 PM
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13. Nah, I don't think he cares that much
I think the discussion was pretty much like this:

"Hey! there's oil in Iraq! Oil's worth lots of money! Let's invade Iraq!" The end.

I don't think they put any more thought into it than that. And all the posturing, and the propaganda, and the manipulation - all of it has been about keeping us in Iraq so they can keep the oil. I can't see Bush caring enough about the Us to be concerned about what is happenning.
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solara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 01:47 PM
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14. No, He just wants to weaken this country enough so that he can stay in power
Attorney General Gonzales - BUSHCo's lawyer thug - recently told the United States Senate that the Constitution does NOT guarantee Habeas Corpus for every citizen.

Gonzales said:"There is no expressed grant of habeas in the Constitution; there's a prohibition against taking it away, the Constitution doesn't say every individual in the United States or citizen is hereby granted or assured the right of habeas corpus. It doesn't say that. It simply says the right shall not be suspended except in cases of rebellion or invasion."

The Military Commissions Act of 2006 is proof enough that the Attorney General of the United States stands by his statement...and it is clear that he speaks for the Executive Branch of OUR government. He offers his skewed interpretation without conscience or any real censure so far.

Read this article by Robert Parry posted on truthout

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/011907D.shtml

Gonzales aids and abets the dictator wannabe by invalidating the laws that protect us so that the current POTUS will have undisputed power.....for life. This arrogant, psycho-phantic petty tyrant is but one of several Bush-appointed power abusers who must be removed from their excessively influential positions.

Perhaps impeachment should begin with Attorney General Gonzales, one of the keystones in the burgeoning obscenity that is the BushCoup..

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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 01:48 PM
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15. No, Because That Would Make Absolutely Zero Sense In Any Realm Of Logic.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 01:52 PM
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17. logic?
If those racist criminals use logic, its to murder people...
if there are side effects, they are incidental.
There is no logic, except that they are trashers;
frat party hackers who pour beer on all the carpets and
piss on the beds and then leave office to sleep it off.

They wish someone would control their drunken urges,
if that's logical.. or just tragic...
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 01:55 PM
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20. Yes, Logic. To Have Such A Grandiose And Extreme Conspiracy, There Would Have To Be A Line Of
reasoning and logic behind it, even if warped reasoning and logic.

So what might that be? Cause from where I sit, there isn't any viable logic whatsoever to this theory.
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 01:48 PM
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16. definitely his result....
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 02:12 PM
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21. Nope. I prefer the comparison to J.R. Ewing

of the old Dallas show. Wants it all, thinks it's all his, relentless.
Oil, governmental power in general, the military, you name it.
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