msnbc Bush speech LIVE now.

[rodeodance]

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[tridim]

1. Oh joy

Somebody pinch me.

[rodeodance]

2. meanwhile on cspan 2 it still says they are waiting for Russ talk (Senate)

[rodeodance]

4. meanwhile daily ksos saying russ not talk till 4 pm. your guess is as good

as mine.

[Norquist Nemesis]

11. CSPAN is listing it as 4PM

I ended up having to mute the classical selections. Well, at least it's not selected hymns and patriotic marches. *sigh*

So sorry I'll be occupied with Thom Hartmann or Al during Bush's speechering. NOT!!!!

[Daphne08]

47. Meanwhile, Mitch McConnell is telling us just how great the

economy is (for the corporations and the wealthy) and how many new jobs we have (at McDonald's).

Wonderful news for all the rest of us working stiffs out here. :sarcasm:


He just called it a "rip-roaring" economy. (I think his nose is growing longer.)

[rodeodance]

77. yeah, but Kent Conrad has great charts! to knock down mitchy boy.

[rodeodance]

3. 'just minutes away' they said (showing clips of getting ready at Univ)

[liveoaktx]

5. Also showing online at CBSNEWS.com website

Cliff May (!!!!) introduces

[mdmc]

10. i am counting on you for the vid link

who is jr?

[liveoaktx]

15. Junior

[liveoaktx]

40. If he says anthing peculiar, I"m there, otherwise this is the same old

same old, although there's extra helpings of jerks and smirks and grimaces.

[ThomWV]

6. And what is "JR" pray tell?

[BuyingThyme]

7. Me too.

[IndyOp]

8. Thanks for asking... I am wondering the same...

Maybe Junior as in Bush, Jr?? One of his 'series' of speeches on Iraq...?

[meegbear]

9. JR Ewing ...

[QuettaKid]

12. what is this thread about? nt.

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[rodeodance]

17. JUNIOR, as in George jr.

[rodeodance]

13. He is suppose to be candid--but i do not hear anything new yet.

[sabra]

14. the spewing is on...

[rodeodance]

16. so, he is not candid yet?

[rodeodance]

19. lots of talk of Americans being inspired by purple fingers.

[liveoaktx]

20. I always think he has a speech book with 3 parts- the first part

that gets replaced with who he's speaking to and needs to thank, second part that has the stuff he's already memorized and said 100 times, and a teensy page in big print that has CANDID written on it.

[rodeodance]

39. but he does not know the meaning of CANDID.

[liveoaktx]

74. Maybe he thinks that's his dog "candy" treat for the end of the speech

[havocmom]

22. Slurring or speaking today?

Sorry, I just can't listen for myself. Am already sick and I don't need further complications.

[liveoaktx]

26. Practicing his kindergarten cadence-He's not familiar enough

with this speech not to just read it.

[havocmom]

45. OMG! Did they change some of the words?

Or mess with the font to keep him working? ;)

[liveoaktx]

60. Per Per PerTECK

[sabra]

18. oops some one forgot to raise the applause sign

delayed applause...

[rodeodance]

21. did Jr. just say it has only been last few weeks that we have seen the

violence?

[rodeodance]

23. "Irag, Three Years Later" is the tag line on msnbc. Whow!

[liveoaktx]

24. "they looked into the abyss and did not like what they saw"-hee!

[rodeodance]

28. Jr. used that word last week also. his vocab is expanding.

[rodeodance]

25. "sectarian violence"--new buzz word (not civil war)--

[dogday]

27. Have seen signs of a hopeful future in Iraq

What are these captions? Brain Washing?

[rodeodance]

29. Lots of dead Iragi last few days-including 4 found hanged in the slums

of bagdad. yahoo news. Is that enough good signs?

[dogday]

31. Does he really think we buy this crap? nt

[rodeodance]

42. he is the 'educator -in chief'--yes i do believe he thinks he is convincin

[adigal]

95. I heard talk about this on Sunday shows

and they were saying that he should stop talking about the same plan over and over, and start thinking about what the hell we are going to do about this war!!!

[sabra]

32. the update on those deaths is that it was a retaliation for the

Sadr City bombing...

[rodeodance]

44. many towns must be nothing but rubble.

[rodeodance]

30. really, nothing new yet.

[sabra]

33. terrorists and saddamists - the list has been filtered to two :-)

[rodeodance]

36. same ol, same ol

[rodeodance]

34. says he laid out his strategy last year in a series of speeches.

[sabra]

35. give the Iraqi's a modern economy... what was it like before?

[rodeodance]

38. 3 years later after Mission accomplished and he is staying the course!

[liveoaktx]

37. I read someplace in the last couple of days that the Iraq battalions

trained are down to ZERO, not even one any more.

[sabra]

41. you are correct. Also a top level general was assassinated last week.

[rodeodance]

43. i would be so scared to be a Iragi troop over there.

[bigtree]

46. This is an amazingly muddled defense

even for the chimp

[rodeodance]

49. the generals gave him this speach.

[bigtree]

62. I think he's bored

it's so incredible, even to him, that he's having a hard time putting any feeling behind his words.

[rodeodance]

48. "Iraq Hangings Stoke Fears of More Violence"--yahoo headline as he

speaks

[rodeodance]

50. He is sure jumping around. little details are confusing him.

[rodeodance]

51. 'as Iraqi stand up, coalition troops will stand down"

[rodeodance]

53. good gawd, he is actually educating us what IUD's are. geesh.

[rodeodance]

54. its like he is talking to people who know nothing!

[Hissyspit]

55. Thomas Powers warned of IEDs BEFORE the war started.

Bush is such a dick.

[uppityperson]

65. IUD or IED?

is there msnbc streaming since all I can find is bloggin it? Thanks.

[sabra]

52. from 1% Sunnis in army to "many many many"

like 1.7% ?

[rodeodance]

56. says Iraqi's are snitching on each other.

[rodeodance]

57. 'tips' they are called.

[rodeodance]

58. oops, now he calls these tips 'intelligence"

[rodeodance]

61. 'we are on the hunt for the enemy"--and will not rest till we find them.

[sabra]

59. this is our strategy! 3 years later and this is the best we've got.

[rodeodance]

63. but Rummy and Generals are learning you know.

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

64. the background message seems a bit subdued

i can't make it out.

[liveoaktx]

68. Who is this group? He was introduced by Cliff May!

I didn't catch the group he's speaking to but I think it's a right-wing think tank of some sort

[liveoaktx]

96. Foundation for Defense of Democracies

set up after 9/11 by Cliff May

[rodeodance]

66. says for security reasons he will not give details about IUD's

[debbierlus]

67. You people have some STRONG stomachs!

I can't do it.

It is soooooooooooooooooooooooo embarrassing to watch this moron stumble over his lies.

I literally get sick to my stomach.

But, let me guess. Iraq people are moving forward. Won't let the terrorists defeat them. Making progress. Must stand tough & complete mission. Just & good mission to spread democracy in the world.

Am I right?

[rodeodance]

71. oh, but you are missing some of the details of the training.

[liveoaktx]

80. and the spontaneous laughter that erupts when he says something

particularly stupid.

[cliss]

69. This adventure is finished.

And they know it. They are just trying to figure out what to do next, so they're buying themselves some time.

[sabra]

70. so it's moved from a war against WMD to a war against IED?

[rodeodance]

72. yes

[rodeodance]

75. he says he wishes he could tell us the violence was decreasing but

he cannot do that. It will be a tough road.

[liveoaktx]

73. Good point-he sure is spending a lot of time on that-Now On to IRAN and

nuclear threats

[sabra]

76. and what will we get from an Iraqi civil war?

[rodeodance]

81. well, folks, Bush can't be too candid. ruin his image you know.

[sabra]

78. September 11th time!!!

[dogday]

79. Why don't you mention Pat Tillman as your hero?

You don't want to bring that up do you... Kiss my ass with your happy death story you shit....

[rodeodance]

82. 'may God bless the families of the fallen"

[Hissyspit]

83. Have you ever heard such anemic applause? n/t

[0007]

88. Very mild response!

[liveoaktx]

84. Has to bring up an anecdotal soldier "Mom, don't let this be in vain" type

stuff.

[bigtree]

85. "IED threat"

All the scientists and technicians and secret reports won't stop the cause of the bombings, our occupation.

Now he blames Iran. THERE WILL BE MORE SUICIDE BOMBERS IF WE INVADE IRAN, NOT LESS. Folks in that region are desperate and fed-up with the U.S. occupation. Bush does not have the capacity to change. He's an ignorant danger to world peace. Everything he does or says is an extension of 'bring it on'. Unfortunately, if he keeps it up, more certainly will.

[rodeodance]

92. "Bush does not have the capacity to change." you are right.

[sabra]

86. 3 years later - and that's the best BushCo can do...

wow.

[rodeodance]

89. not much was it.

[rodeodance]

87. He gave some details about the training-nothing else new.

[liveoaktx]

90. And since he was lying about that, too, it's all crap

[Nutmegger]

91. Is this his massive PR speech???

Sorry, I already had a good :puke: today. I'll settle with sifting through this thread.

[rodeodance]

93. yeah, and he, himself, did not look/sound interested.

[debbierlus]

94. Okay - get ready for the in-depth post speech 'analysis'!

Bunch of pseudo-journalists jerking off to hear themselves talk.

[Misunderestimator]

97. Had to mute it 2 minutes in.

:puke:

[kohodog]

98. When all the Iraqi's are dead we will have won.

And not one body sooner.

[spanone]

99. This just show more & more of America how out of touch and uncaring

these crminal fuckers are.