Daily Show 3/21 guest says WMD's were in Iraq and moved to Syria?

[seattlemetal]

ok who saw the show? I missed it, but who is this guy? I realize he's trying to sell a book and all, but now the righties are all freaking out that there "WERE WMD's in Iraq and they got moved to Syria"......

WTF? if that were true, dont they think Bush would be ALL OVER IT? Wouldnt there be an investigation in Syria right now? Wouldnt it be on the news? wouldnt there be SOMETHING besides this damn book? not to mention how in the hell do they think that those kinds of things got moved right under our noses, especially when we supposedly had pics of them and everything?!?


one of these righties actually said 'you just KNOW when your hearing something thats true, you can FEEL it" :wtf:

can we have a WMD Research thread?

[tandot]

1. Why would Syria agree to hide Saddam's weapons?

Why didn't Saddam just use them to defend himself against the US?

Another proof that Freepers completely lack critical thinking skills.

[evlbstrd]

2. I don't think he said that.

I saw the show, but I'm a little fuzzy on what he said about WMD. I am pretty certain he did not say that WMD were transferred to Syria.

[Cleita]

21. Yes, he did. I watched that segment twice.

He says he was an former general in Saddam's army and he saw the weapons being loaded on trucks and airplanes to be lifted to Syria.

I think he's lying. He made a big point of saying that he never lies. Isn't that what liars do? He apparently has written a book that got published about his years with Saddam.

He claims the WMDs were sent to Syria before the inspectors found them. I was under the impression that syria was hostile to Saddam's Iraq.

That Daily Show will be replayed at 7:00PM on the Comedy Channel today if you want to verify it.

[evlbstrd]

25. Thank you.

The point about never lying struck me, too.

[Nikki Stone 1]

3. This rumor has been around for a long time

We have yet to see any proof.

[Lisa]

4. he was an Iraqi general who's now in the new government ...

Jon Stewart was being friendly and respectful to him, and didn't demand proof (after all, that's not really his job, since it's a comedy show ...)

Stewart did ask why Bush's people weren't fully engaged in following up this lead, since it would let them off "the very large hook" they're now on. And the general claimed that it would soon all come out, but didn't offer any specifics. He admitted, though, that he hadn't supervised the operation, but had heard from other people that WMDs had been moved. (I wasn't entirely certain how much stuff allegedly was sent off, by truck and air -- or whether it was still viable -- or exactly WHEN this operation occurred. So I'm reserving judgement.)



p.s. When the general said that the stuff had been packed in yellow barrels with skull-and-crossbone symbols on them (or words to that effect), Stewart did intervene and asked why they hadn't tried to conceal this a bit better, if it was supposed to be a secret -- "put 'SPAM' on them, or something?"

So now I'm all confused. Was it really dangerous chemicals which were being transported as dangerous chemicals? Or not-so-dangerous chemicals which were being disguised as dangerous chemicals so people would think they were WMDs, while the real WMDs were either somewhere else (disguised as not-so-dangerous chemicals), or still back in Iraq, or nonexistent?

[LynnTheDem]

9. NO wmd in Iraq since 1992. The "general" is an Allawi aide.

You know; "Iraq can launch wmd within 15 minutes".

NO WMD in Iraq since 1992.

NO WMD or anything else being flown to Syria.

Nothing to be confused about. NO WMD in Iraq since 1992. :)

[peekaloo]

16. My first thought when he mentioned the yellow barrels

with the skull and crossbones was "gee, the U.S. must be paying those Green Zone inhabitants pretty damn well.

:eyes:

[jsamuel]

5. The guy said he knew because he "heard it" from "guys who moved them"

seems like RW BS.

Also note that NBC just covered a guy last night that was one of Saddam's top men who was secretly working for the CIA and he told them over and over that Saddam had no WMD.

[progressivebydesign]

19. they moved them after pulling babies out of incubators. n/t

[sabra]

6. "can we have a WMD Research thread?"

we are 3 years into the war; there were no and aren't any WMD.

peace.

[LynnTheDem]

7. NO WMD in Iraq since 1992. And some day even the MFing stupid

rightwingnuts are gonna just have to face that FACT and get the fuck over it. :)

[TahitiNut]

8. So, who manufactured them, then?

The whole notion of some transportable 'threat to mankind' without the infrastructure to develop, manufacture, deploy, store, and dispose of both the weaponry and the byproducts of every component of what's called 'capability' is so f*cking drain-bamaged my estimation of the 'average' person's IQ makes me afraid to even be on the same roads and highways.

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

10. Yes, the person making the statement needs to provide evidence.

[walldude]

11. LMFAO gimme a break... this again?

So what he is saying is in essence that I have a GPS in my car that can track me anywhere. We have a satellite system that can track anything anywhere, and that we neglected to use that system against a country that we were about to start a war with, and that somehow we missed a convoy of trucks hauling missles and biological weapons out of Iraq. That makes us either stupid or incompetent either way this guy is undermining his own arguement.

[Coexist]

17. we were shown photo after photo of buildings and parking lots

where they COUNTED the cars from day to day to show that Iraqi troops were moving around these buildings and therefore they were research facilities.

But SOMEHOW we didn't catch all those convoys over the border to Syria.
Right.

[SeattleRob]

20. thanks for saying the obvious! N/T

[lonestarnot]

12. I have some property for sale... real nice, real cheap. heh heh heh

[MissMarple]

13. I understand the Florida swamps provide quite lovely vistas.

It's KOOL AID time. :rofl:

[lonestarnot]

15. I was thinking of property in N.O., L.A.

[MissMarple]

27. Except there is some thought some of it will go up in value later.

That 's one of the concerns, that folks will sell too cheaply, then the properties will escalate in value as reconstruction occurs. That sounds a bit like carpetbaggers in the South after the War. Hoo boy. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[lonestarnot]

30. Still doing body recovery.

[riona]

14. and, unless i heard incorrectly, he said

that the gov't would release the evidence to the american public shortly

[progressivebydesign]

18. That's total Bullshit, completely disproven in videos of Iraqi govt

Remember the other day in Saddam's trial wherein they had hours of video tapes, audio tapes, and documents, proving that the WMD did not exist and were NOT moved to Syria. It's total bullshit. PNAC much?

[Cleita]

24. What's the name of the book? Who published it?

If the publisher is one of the RW publishers, who publish Ann Coulter and Jonah Goldberg's bird droppings, then you can be suspicious that this is deliberate disinformation being spread by the Swiftboat crowd.

[Chimichurri]

22. How convenient for the Bush cabal that he's popped up with

this claim now. This man claims he was high level Saddam commander and now he's part of the Iraqi government. No doubt an american tool from the story he's told last night. Oh, and he looks like Chalabi btw. Maybe they're related.

[zulchzulu]

23. We had every inch of Iraq under reconnnaisance planes

All while we bombed the shit out of the country through the 1990's...

[Cleita]

26. Looky...looky who is the publisher!

Integrity Publishing a RW fundie publisher whose best selling author is Pat Robertson.

Sales in 2003 were led by Pat Robertson's The Ten Offenses, which now has 400,000 copies in print, and The Yada Yada Prayer Group by Neta Jackson, with 100,000 copies in print. The first product in Integrity's family line, Memory Bible, also did well last year, selling 65,000 copies; Memory Bible was fully illustrated and came packaged with two CDs. More book and media packages are planned for this year, Williamson said.

http://www.publishersweekly.com/article/CA416015.html?pubdate=5%2F10%2F2004&display=archive



http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1591454042/104-0010291-2437515?v=glance&n=283155


The fundies have really been hot to invade Syria even more so than Iran. Why I don't know, but it looks like they are trying to make their case.

[FatDave]

31. Curiouser and curiouser...

There's something rotten in...well, not Denmark this time.

[killbotfactory]

28. The CIA and our weapon inspectors disagree

http://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/iraq_wmd_2004/

All his existing WMD weapons were destroyed by 1992. All that was left after was duel use components and the knowledge to rebuild the programs in some future point in time.

[RamboLiberal]

29. I'm betting the INC and the Bushies are rolling out this guy

Georges Hormis Sada graduated from Iraq’s Air Academy in 1959 and was trained by elite forces in Great Britain, Russia and the U.S. An ace fighter pilot who trained other pilots, he went on to become air vice marshal in Saddam Hussein’s military. His acts of bravery, including saving the lives of forty downed coalition pilots in the Gulf War, have earned him hero status.

Georges Sada was born into an Assyrian Christian family in northern Iraq and became a born-again believer in 1986. Georges had great favor with the former Iraqi dictator, as he is one of the few Iraqi men to ever publicly confront Saddam Hussein and live to tell about it. Georges believes a key reason why he served as one of Saddam’s most trusted advisors was to persuade him against
attacking the nation of Israel with chemical weapons, something Saddam attempted to do on two separate occasions.

Now retired, Georges is director of the Iraqi Institute for Peace and also serves as spokesman for the newly elected prime minister of Iraq. He is also the president of the National Presbyterian Church in Baghdad and chairman of the Assembly of Iraqi Evangelical Presbyterian Churches.

In recent years, Georges held the position of principal advisor to the former Iraqi Prime Minister, Iyad Allawi. Additionally, he acted as the lead consultant for the reconstruction of all three branches of the Iraqi defense system. In June of 2003, Georges received the prestigious International Prize for Peace and Reconciliation presented by the Bishop of Coventry, England.

Georges Sada is the author of the book, Saddam’s Secrets, an expose on Iraq’s weapons programs and the murderous reign of Saddam Hussein.

http://generalgeorgessada.ambassadoragency.com/client_profile.cfm/cid/1225?categories_id=20

The man who served as the no. 2 official in Saddam Hussein's air force says Iraq moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria before the war by loading the weapons into civilian aircraft in which the passenger seats were removed.

The Iraqi general, Georges Sada, makes the charges in a new book, "Saddam's Secrets," released this week. He detailed the transfers in an interview yesterday with The New York Sun.

"There are weapons of mass destruction gone out from Iraq to Syria, and they must be found and returned to safe hands," Mr. Sada said. "I am confident they were taken over."

Mr. Sada's comments come just more than a month after Israel's top general during Operation Iraqi Freedom, Moshe Yaalon, told the Sun that Saddam "transferred the chemical agents from Iraq to Syria."

http://www.nysun.com/article/26514

I was disappointed to see Jon give this guy such latitude w/o much of a challenge. This guy says Iraq converted two Boeings to cargo and flew 56 times to Syria with WMD cargo. Yeah right!

[emulatorloo]

32. If he was Saddam's #2 why is he still free?

Bush admin must like him a lot . . .