Bill Maher to teabaggers - You dress up like them, but Founding Fathers would have hated your guts

[Amerigo Vespucci]

Run time: 04:08 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PApyf_YmTM   Posted on YouTube: January 15, 2011 By YouTube Member: DoctorOfDisbelief Views on YouTube: 302   Posted on DU: January 15, 2011 By DU Member: Amerigo Vespucci Views on DU: 8799

 

[Lucian]

1. That is why Bill Maher is awesome.

It's too bad I don't get HBO. :(

[greiner3]

4. One of the few reasons I'd consider getting a TV;

Much less cable.

[Kurovski]

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http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/new-rules-bill-maher-teabaggers-founding-f

[geckosfeet]

2. I regret that I have ony one rec to give. Bill hammers it home.

[Generic Other]

3. American Insurgents

My portrait of the Founding Fathers getting ready to kick some teabagger ass!

[Enthusiast]

5. That is fantastic! K&R

Ya done good, Bill!

[JohnnyLib2]

6. Terrific insight .

K & R

[Dennis Donovan]

7. "...either that or it's a settlement offer..."

...for that boy after he sued the rectory."

:spray::rofl:

[Generic Other]

11. What in the mixed metaphor hell is that?

omg omg omg

cOPIED AND saved in my hard drive!!!

[Kurovski]

26. Can you tell which founding father in there is fondling a didgeridoo?

I'm stumped.

[Generic Other]

29. Must be Jefferson (red hair)

The nose looks wrong though. Kinda Jimmy Durante looking.

Oh I love the guy in front counting his bonus money. From Goldman Sachs or BoA?

[Kurovski]

30. I think you're correct.

I'm betting there are architectural plans for Palin's new moose lodge rolled into that thing.

I just noticed how they placed "hooded death" in on the Left. :eyes: Also a Jewish guy flipping through a coupon book for a BOGO from TGIFriday's. His nonchalance is commendable! Or Goldman Sachs, as you say. :D (We all know how the repubs tried so hard to get banking rules in place.)

EDIT: --and a gay guy in leather sport coat making snide comments about everything. :rofl:

[Kurovski]

32. Oh, now I get why death is there, he's going to eat the eternal souls of the non-believers.

And the old presidents are going to intervene, they seem prepared to plead with Jesus, who will probably forgive them, piss off the Xtians (with all their deeply felt revenge fantasies) and start this shit all over again.

That picture is pretty much a revenge fantasy.

[Kurovski]

31. And the arrogant intellectual with his...book!

casting sideways glances at Jesus. Boy I bet he get's his. Any day now. I mean, it's only been two thousand years, what's a few hundred million more?

[boppers]

38. The book is Origin of Species.

http://www.mcnaughtonart.com/artwork/view_zoom/?artpiece_id=353

[Kurovski]

52. Oh yeah! The book none of those people read, but heard something bad about it on FOX.

http://www.shortpacked.com/McNaughton%20Fine%20Art.htm

[boppers]

37. It's supposed to be Jefferson, holding the Declaration of Independence.

He might have made a mean didj player, I dunno.

[Kurovski]

51. So then, It's NOT a prototype bazooka designed by Franklin?

:shrug:

[gtar100]

35. It's entitled, "The Christian's Wet Dream"

True to life! That's their vision.

[Kurovski]

56. Do you remember the painting of Jesus at the UN building?

By Harry Anderson.

it was in our grade school classroom. I remember swooning from the concept. (I was seven years old.) Oh, but how the righty-tighties rankle in bitter hatred for the UN.

Of course, this was liberal, Catholic Jesus, and as every hardcore Xtian knows, Catholicism is, oh how do THEY put it? Oh yes! "The Whore" Tres charmant, n'est pas?

[bongbong]

16. Another funny bit

It looks like Lincoln is doing an "Al Jolson type" routine. Incredibly ironic if unintended, but the teabaggers probably intended it, since they all hate African-Americans so much.

[Kurovski]

24. Did you notice the Yankee soldier and liberal judge weeping?

The knocked-up babe next to the judge: "You tried to kill my baby!"

I think that's a Koch brother behind the judge calling his brother to brag: "SCORE!", and of course retchin' Gretchen Carlson is shoving a mic in his kisser. OH! But see how the judges paltry, demonic rulings flutter to the floor before Jesus' mighty Constitution!

And the yankee...well...you know.

I'm here to tell you that I just fuckin' LOVE the goddamn arts!

[Kurovski]

27. And why is Larry David trashing Lincoln?

Who would complain to Lincoln? On his knees, no less! :shrug:

[Rozlee]

17. A couple of token black folk, no Mexicans and Jesus looks gay.

Teabaggers make it so easy to make fun of them.

[Kurovski]

25. Correction:

Jesus looks FABULOUS! Did Queer Eye for the Straight Guy teach us nothing?

[boppers]

39. The "immigrant" is lower left....

Frederick Douglas is in there, along with Harriet Tubman. The black soldier on the right (behind Lincoln) has a "King" nametag, he was supposed to be MLK, but the artist couldn't use his likeness for a profit.

http://www.mcnaughtonart.com/artwork/view_zoom/?artpiece_id=353

[Kurovski]

53. It would be years before Rosa Parks was allowed to the front of the painting...

[zigzagzed]

34. No matter how many times I see it....

It amazes me that not only are there people who are so deluded in their self-importance that they believe this tripe, but that they look down on the rest of us with contempt. (Yes, I am aware of the irony in the previous sentence.) Of course, the God who created the universe's laws of physics and gave us powers of reason and deduction wants us to bury our heads in the sand under the banner of American Exceptionalism. The artist has some other doozies at http://www.mcnaughtonart.com/artwork/view_zoom/?artpiece_id=353

[gtar100]

36. Notice the evil sinners are to the left of Jesus, including that damn

liberal activist judge and the unwed pregnant woman.

But St. Ronnie's there looking dapper as ever!

[Kurovski]

41. And at least six inches taller!

Death becomes him.

[Volaris]

44. I was going to suggest that the Judge is weeping

because in the landscape in which he finds himself, the separation of church and state is COMPLETELY out the window...there is also what appears to be Union Soldier mourning..not sure why (except that the only dark-skinned person in the painting appears to be MLK?) Theres also reporter? down there by the Judge, I guess American Jesus doesn't like her either.....
the more I look at it, the more I find to detest about this painting....
Peace

[d_b]

47. ...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_oZfaegs9NoI/SwWzJ_beXdI/AAAAAAAAA_w/xXfTrzViIGQ/s1600/One+Nation,+Under+Cthulhu.jpg

[Kurovski]

50. Hieronymus Bosch Jr.

Isn't that the real message, when you get right down to it? :rofl:

[Kurovski]

57. HEY KIDS! I found a parody by DUer blogslut!

Run curser over image...

http://blogslut.com/oneartist/oneartist.html :thumbsup:

DU page...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6726538

[Kurovski]

58. You HAVE to check out what the kid says to Jesus.

(Please, no spoilers)

[AlbertCat]

66. I LOVE the token black in the lower left!

And the "sinners" on the right...hahahahahaha!

Is that Nancy Pelosi?.... oh no... she has a mic. Must be the "lame stream Media". (behind John Roberts, Bristol Palin and a BP exec????)

A cell phone is a sin? I can't see what book the guy next to him is holding... but he looks like a scientist! "Origin of Species" perhaps? And the snide "liberal" beside him....all going to die!


This painting is hysterical!

[Quixote1818]

8. Bravo! nt

[Overseas]

9. K&R! Excellent! //nt

[silverweb]

10. Best ever.

And I have no concern that I'd better run to fact-check all his statements for lies/distortions (unlike those "across the aisle").

From experience, I can safely expect that the Real Time staff have already verified everything written for accuracy.

Furthermore, Bill's viewers will call him to task if anything does turn out to be not quite true, and Bill will voluntarily make a correction.

Just one more reason I like being a liberal.

[tomm2thumbs]

12. +1 - spot on

thanks for posting

[progressoid]

13. I wish he was on basic cable so more people could see his show

[Tx4obama]

14. Links to more segments below

Opening segment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spyfcb6TSOc
Elizabeth Warren: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_hVXhlDKUU
Round table - James Carville, Chrystia Freeland and Mike Murphy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWsKcSoM0ic
FULL New Rules (7 minutes): http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/new-rules-bill-maher-teabaggers-founding-f

[liberation]

15. No one knows what the founding fathers would have said, done, or acted like today

since they are long dead. Also the "founding fathers" as a block were not that homogeneous, and chances are some of the founding fathers would agree more with the tea baggers and they defense of the elites than plenty of people on the left would care to admit.

That is why these sort of arguments always end up in silliness. Sorry.

[pacalo]

19. We just have documents like the declaration of independence, the constitution,

the bill of rights, the federalist papers...to know what their reaction to the baggers would be.

:eyes:

[forty6]

28. Not to mention several dozen other primary sources, Ben Franklin wrote his own..

autobiography, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson wrote by hand and sent hundreds of letters, as did the well educated sons and daughters of most of the founding fathers. We have minutes of meetings all the way from the First and Second Continental Congresses, to the first meetings of the House and Senate and every House and Senate thereafter, now known as "the congressional record".

There are more documents about the founding fathers, their personal lives, their families, their thoughts,etc. Than there are about Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Kennedy, Reagan, Bush I and ESPECIALLY more than about Bush II !!!

[liberation]

42. I don't mean to intrude in the passive aggressive pile up, but...

that is still silly to make assumptions about what a diverse group of people long dead may or may not opine on a specific set of current issues. That is why it is stupid for the tea baggers to do so, to begin with.

You can make all the assumptions that you want, but we all know that "assumption" is the mother of all screw ups. So unless you unearth zombie Ben Franklin and ask him directly, all one does making statements regarding what the "founding fathers" may feel regarding a current event, is nothing more than the speaker projecting his or her expectations on a bunch of people who have not felt fresh air for over two centuries. Which is why the tea baggers think they are in the right, when they assume what the "founding fathers" may think today. Even though it is clear their projection is ridiculous to say the least.

Let's not forget that the founding fathers were indeed a diverse bunch of fellows, some of them were smugglers, slave owners, pious church going fellows, and whoremonging hedonists. These are the same group who ended up considering that only wealthy white males were worthy of the right to vote, that a black individual was not a "full person," and how long did it take before women got to vote. Ironically, one of the few characteristics that was shared among the founding fathers was their socio-economic status: most of them were wealthy.

So really, do you really want to make assumptions about what a bunch of rich white guys of yore would make about a current situation. Go ahead.

[olegramps]

49. I suggest that you avail yourself of their writings. There is a treasure of information available.

These were men of the Enlightenment and very skeptical of religion.

[Kurovski]

63. +1

What many of them thought Is not a particularly great mystery. For goodness sake.

[lolly]

22. Quite the point

Please note that it's the baggers who have so smugly wrapped themselves in the founding fathers' mantle.

Maher points out that their assumptions about what the founding fathers thought are not based in any available evidence, including their writings or biographical accounts. Like certain people who create G-d in their own image, these folks have created a cast of founding fathers that bears little relation to reality. And it's easy to point out where their fantasy falls short.

Silliness? Well, it is supposed to be comedy.

[jmowreader]

33. You've got to wonder about the 'baggers' Founding Fathers vision

These guys write letters to my paper all the time that contain the phrase "The Founding Fathers did not envision..." (normally when talking about abortion, welfare, etc. and their hatred of same) but haven't noticed the Founding Fathers didn't envision this state either.

[melody]

43. Not true

The founding fathers -- especially the most important ones, Adams, Franklin and Jefferson -- were, at best, agnostic. None of the men believed that Jesus was the son of "God" -- in fact, there is a great array of letters between Adams and Jefferson covering that very topic, suggesting that it would soon become a backward idea believed only by simpletons. Adams' Unitarian Church now serves as the center of liberal and social justice causes for Boston. His own body is buried underneath it. They now perform gay marriages over it.

I'm sorry, but the founding fathers would have been on the side of the liberal folk (liberal as an adjective, not a noun). That is clear to see in their writing.

[JHB]

65. That's not really the point...

The point is that the teabaggers make a lot of show and noise about fealty to the Founding Fathers, but have an appalling ignorance about who they were and what they thought. The teabaggers wave them around like a mascot, but the FFs are not a toy for them to play with.

[snagglepuss]

67. True in some respects however it is beyond doubt that as men of the

Enlightenment they would be in utter contempt of the abysmal the lack of learning and appreciation of the Arts and the religious hysteria of the Right would be anathema.

[Kurovski]

68. Not to mention...

the contempt for science.

[DeSwiss]

18. K&R n/t

[Paka]

20. Maher is always good...

But on this one I think he has outdone himself.

[CLANG]

21. He's hitting on all cylinders lately!

[Initech]

23. I like Maher's message way better than Stewart's.

Stewart's message: We need to be more rational.

Maher's message: Fuck the tea party.

[Kurovski]

64. They seem to go hand-in-hand.

As in "If you're not going to be rational, then fuck-off."

A pretty good rule of thumb for any endeavor.

[blackspade]

40. Ouch!

I do so appreciate irony!

[racetoinfinity]

45. I wish Martin Short hadn't interrupted

Just saw the whole show. It was great. Bill is getting more progressive all the time, as events spiral down in this country, and he was hilarious tonight, and had great guests.

I wish Martin Short hadn't interrupted James Carville as he was beginning to reply to Chrystia Freeland's remark that his Bill Clinton admin. had been one of the perpetrators of the banking deregulation that Carville was rightly ranting against. It probably would have been the same unconvincing "In retrospect, I wish we hadn't done it," that Bill Clinton has been giving out, when asked why he signed away Glass-Steagall, etc., but we might have had a novel "mea culpa" with more honesty.

I'd love to hear Carville explain his current rage against banking deregulation, when his boss signed most of it away (with Rubin as Iago whispering in his ear, I like to say), but, of course, Clinton was always a neoliberal DLC corporatist who signed NAFTA and so (ignominiously) on, etc., so I doubt that Carville would/will ever admit how corporate/conservative the Clinton administration really was (just as the current one is - Bill Maher was great on that point on the show, also.)

[LAGC]

46. Dammit, HBO yanked the Youtube clip. Does anyone have a mirror anywhere? (n/t)

[lonestarnot]

48. Turds on sticks!

[Kurovski]

60. here...

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/new-rules-bill-maher-teabaggers-founding-f

[ThirdChoice]

55. HBO are complete Nazis

You have to host the video yourselves, and even then you will probably get some phone calls and letters from some lawyers. To me, Bil is worth the extra $10 a month for HBO, plus you have good documentaries, Gasland, etc., good series, John Adams was awesome.

[Kurovski]

61. From the French Resistance to you...

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/new-rules-bill-maher-teabaggers-founding-f

[Kurovski]

59. So far...

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/new-rules-bill-maher-teabaggers-founding-f

[WillyT]

54. K & R !!!

:kick: