Does anyone else notice they are making headway with their rightwing friends?

[Th1onein]

And, please, don't bother with the "why are rightwingers your friends?" idiocy. We all need to figure out a way to come together, as Americans if we are to accomplish anything.

I've noticed that some of the people that I talk to, who are hard rightwingers, have begun to come around, lately. Have any of you noticed that, as well?

I would like, of course, to think that it is the power of my personality, or of my arguements, that they are listening now. But, I think, mostly it has to do with the economy. They're beginning to figure out they've been screwed.

[old guy]

1. Not really.

They realize that things are not good and that * is to blame, but when push comes to shove and the enter to voting booth they still vote repub, so nothing gained. Their actions speak louder than their rhetoric.

[rucky]

2. I got two!

they both like Obama. I'm still working on 'em.

where's my toaster?

[Sugar Smack]

3. Keep at it, baby!

I am! Thanks for that.:pals:

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

4. For me, this has been happening for a while

in '04, a group of retirees who had settled here and who had been Republicans had had their eyes opened and set up an independent political group that actively supported the Kerry campaign. This year, I told my doctor about Kucinich's plans for health care. She is very impressed, and I know she's not planning to vote Republican in 08, partly because of this.

[kansasblue]

5. they are less vocal

more silence than before. Willing to admit the administration's incompetence.


But.... they will still vote for a Republican next time. (a better one).

[aquart]

7. Well good luck with them finding a "better one" in their current candidates.

Poor things.

[DawgHouse]

9. This is my experience as well.

[Bruce McAuley]

6. I have noticed that reecently...

A regional forum I post on in Spokane has a couple of right-wingers who've changed their opinions a LOT recently.
They used to support the Repubs heart and soul, but lately the fellow who obviously posts of FR has just about given up supporting Bush, the Republicans, OR the war in Iraq.
This is a MAJOR sea-change, and now our discussions are mostly about what we can do to end the war or achieve peace or a restoration of freedoms in this country.
He actually agreed with all Project Censored's most censored stories for 2007, and while some others quibbled about the author's left wing creds, he also mentioned nobody ELSE is talking about such important issues.
Not that he's turned into a lefty, far from it.
But he isn't a "righty" any more either.
I doubt he'd vote Republican again.

Bruce

[Cleita]

8. My family, who are not right wingers, but seem to pick up

right wing talking points all the time, talked about how awful a President Bush was over the holidays. Then they said America needed a President who would run the nation like a business. I stepped in and said that this is what we already had. I reminded them that Bush has an MBA from Harvard no less and look what a mess he and his cronies are creating. Silence at the table. Then I pointed out that if they check history, every country who has elected leaders or had them thrust on them because of their business abilities and ties to the corporate community have turned into war mongering, fascist dictatorships with a disappearing middle class. More silence.

Then I further added that the Great Depression was brought on by the robber barons and Herbert Hoover. They then argued that it was the stock market. To which I added and it was the Hoover administration's policies that allowed the stock market to eventually crash and it was FDR who finally sorted the mess out. More silence.

No one invited me around for New Years. Oh well.

[Th1onein]

15. Republicans DO run the country like they run businesses...

Take Enron, for example....

[billybob537]

10. I've gotten pretty sneaky with some

I like to ask questions that cause them to tweak out. I'm so glad We've got president pretzeldink guarding the constitution for us. This is great it's just like when Joe McCarthy claimed all his political enemy's were communists! Hey why did we invade Iraq? If you can answer that without lying to yourself you are a true wingnut!

[NNN0LHI]

11. The toe tapping diaper wearing Republican senators have slowed them down a bit

But not much.

Don

[alfredo]

12. Yes. My army buddies are upset over the war, treatment of Veterans,

and unbridled corporate greed. Several have lost jobs and homes because of the corporatist.

[Perry Logan]

13. They stole TWO Presidential elections from us. That's civil war. And you guys want to get along?

[Th1onein]

16. Who is "THEY"?

Look, I told you no idiocy....

[elehhhhna]

14. I'd LOVE to take credit for iy but alas,

their "party" has betrayed them, then rubbed their noses in it. Too bad we're not offering a good crossover candidate...yet. Then the circle will be completed.