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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 04:07 PM
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Dead or Alive?...Six years ago, President Bush vowed that bin Laden would be brought to justice...

Dead or Alive?

Does the Bush administration even know?

Yesterday, we read about the latest rantings of the madman who led the attack on the United States six years ago. Or did we? Benazir Bhutto said last month that bin Laden is dead. Two days after her assassination, we have a 'new' audio message from bin Laden that strangely fails to mention her murder, even though al-Qaeda has been accused. Is it OBL or is it his specter that's again been dragged out with the same precision timing as he was in 2004? Or does this administration really not have a clue?

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In the run-up to both '04 and '06, Republicans played the terror card to spread fear, thinking they could convince a frightened America to vote their way. Well, it might have worked in '04, but we wised up in '06, and now, if they plan to try it again, they'll just look pitiful. Because we're not more safe today, we're less safe. But we are smarter. And some of us still remember who did this:


Ground Zero December 22, 2007

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Six years ago, President Bush vowed that bin Laden would be brought to justice "dead or alive". Six years later, he's still falsely tying bin Laden to his misguided war in Iraq, while ignoring the threat of a nuclear Pakistan in turmoil. Does he even know or care? As long as there's a question, we will listen to the tapes and watch the news coverage and wonder why, after six years, we still don't have an answer.



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angrycarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 04:11 PM
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1. if he is confirmed dead
would the powers granted him to fight the war on terror be over?
I don't know but that would be a good reason to let him remain at large.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 04:16 PM
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2. yes, that is a grand reason
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 09:19 PM
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12. Read this for an update.
http://cryptome.sabotage.org/tim-osman.htm

If the war against Osama Bin Ladin (Tim Osman) is not a total fraud, then what is Michael Riconosciuto doing in prison? Why doesn't he have an office next to Colin Powell so he can give realistic advice on Bin Ladin's thinking? And where is Ralph Olberg?

Thirty-four days before the East African embassy bombings of August 7, 1998, Riconosciuto notified the FBI in Miami that the bombings were going to take place. Two days prior to the bombings he requested of BOP (Bureau of Prisons) officials at the Federal Corrections Institution (FCI) in Coleman, FL., that he be allowed to call ECOMOG security headquarters to warn African officials. The BOP denied the request. Riconosciuto was mystified at being ignored by the relevant government authorities. I'm not mystified. I suspect the reason Riconosciuto was ignored was that the relevant parties, including especially the Miami FBI office, knew all along the bombings would take place. And they wanted them to happen.

The same is true with respect to the recent plane bombings of the WTC. It wasn't an intelligence "failure". The terrorist acts were deliberately allowed to happen. The actors may have been foreign. But the stage directors appear to have been all along here in the U.S. Cui bono?

Isn't it time to let Michael Riconosciuto out of prison, and wipe the slate clean of the trumped up drug charges, and let him be a national security advisor—at least with respect to the government's pursuit of Osama Bin Ladin? Isn't it time to quit pretending Osama Bin Ladin came out of nowhere?

This is not an academic argument. Sources say three dozen MANPADs have been imported into Quebec, Canada, from Colombia (where they arrived from Eastern Europe). The missile shipments followed the "northern" drug route—from Colombia into Canada. The missiles involved are Russian Strellas and Iglas. These will serve just fine to take down commercial airline flights. Just like TWA 800. Which group of terrorists has the missiles? Meanwhile, how many biological warfare agents are in the hands of organized crime? Maybe you should ask Riconosciuto about all this.

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 04:16 PM
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3. Bush and Cheney Just Don't Care
Osama was never the point or the goal. They have free rein, and that's all that mattered, then and now. They can do anything, commit any crime, and Congress will look the other way. The judges are all bought, or nearly, and they can't do anything if the Deptartment of Injustice won't let them.

It's said that riding a tiger isn't half as dangerous as trying to get off it! Let's see just how these thugs plan to exit office--if at all!
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 04:20 PM
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4. well said. n/t
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focusfan Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 04:25 PM
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5. I wonder if he was ever really alive?
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 04:30 PM
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6. Are You Talking About Bush, or Cheney?
One is a figment of the collective imagination, and the other is the Undead.
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focusfan Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 10:07 AM
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13. Good one,but I was thinking of Bin Laden
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 04:39 PM
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7. It's sad
that the WTC site looks like that six years later, isn't it?
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 10:12 AM
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14. New Orleans is another area they haven't done anything about either
they couldn't care less about the citizens of the US.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 05:38 PM
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8. They wanted something like 9/11 to happen -- that's why they didn't do anything to stop it
They took the threat seriously and did nothing, like James Howard Kunstler
grinning about how there "will" be a massive die-off after the oil shock
or Giuliani as mayor grinning about how there "will" be another attack on
the WTC and explaining that as a reason why the buildings should be
demolished and redeveloped, since they were unprofitable for the new owner
due to the security threat.
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 06:21 PM
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9. Well, I guess Bush lied. A surpirse....nt
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 07:57 PM
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10. OBL has been our Emanuel Goldstein from the beginning
The beginning of the September 11, 2001 attacks, that is.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 08:03 PM
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11. Was that before or after Bin Laden died
three or is it four times? :D
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 10:22 AM
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15. after the first time he came back to life you would think someone would drive a wooden stake
through his damn heart the next time they killed him, wouldn't ya. I guess killing him is too much fun for them to only do it once, or sumptin'. ;-)
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 10:23 AM
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16. he lied then, he lies now
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 10:30 AM
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17. As an aside . . . do people still call him "President" Bewsh?
Seriously. Nothing he does or has done gives him the right to that distinction. Really, it's arguable that he hasn't done ONE helpful thing for anyone making less than $250,000 per year.

He wasn't even elected to the position; he was GIVEN the damned title by a Cabal-favoring Supreme Court.

So we need to stop calling him that IMO.
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