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Dennis Donovan
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Sun Dec-21-08 08:19 AM Original message |
**What we know about the Michael Connell crash itself (Research Thread - feel free to contribute)** |
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Frustratedlady
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Sun Dec-21-08 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
1. Woman asking dumb question here, but... |
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Dennis Donovan
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Sun Dec-21-08 08:51 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. The photo shows charred wreckage, indicating there was fuel in the tanks. |
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formercia
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Sun Dec-21-08 10:28 AM Response to Reply #2 |
21. Fuel tank sumps |
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Dennis Donovan
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Sun Dec-21-08 10:47 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. True - improper preflight check would make it pilot error... |
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formercia
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Sun Dec-21-08 10:53 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. He was wearing a business suit |
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leftchick
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Sun Dec-21-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #2 |
23. the neighbors across the street |
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madokie
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Sun Dec-21-08 09:04 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. I'm not sure what the gas to air ratio for an open explosion would be |
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localroger
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Sun Dec-21-08 10:22 AM Response to Reply #1 |
19. Fumes are more explosive than liquid fuel |
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EstimatedProphet
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Sun Dec-21-08 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
3. Well that proves it - IT HAD TO BE ROVE! |
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Dennis Donovan
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Sun Dec-21-08 08:57 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. You'll notice I make no such claims... |
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remedy1
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Sun Dec-21-08 10:27 AM Response to Reply #5 |
20. It is likely that this is pilot error. |
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Dennis Donovan
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Sun Dec-21-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Thank you for the info - that's why I started this thread... |
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suzie
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Mon Dec-22-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #24 |
48. Thanks to all of you who provided technical information on this thread. |
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Mon Dec-22-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #20 |
55. Deleted message |
remedy1
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Sun Dec-21-08 10:54 AM Response to Reply #5 |
27. METARs from the time of the accident... |
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Dennis Donovan
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Sun Dec-21-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Thank you for the info, remedy1. |
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jljamison
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:31 PM Response to Reply #27 |
66. interesting... |
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EstimatedProphet
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Mon Dec-22-08 08:53 AM Response to Reply #5 |
41. Enough other people have made that claim, though. |
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Dennis Donovan
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Mon Dec-22-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #41 |
51. That's why I started this thread. There's enough threads on this... |
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EstimatedProphet
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Mon Dec-22-08 12:13 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Right you are |
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Dennis Donovan
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Mon Dec-22-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. No problem - I just wanted to keep this thread to facts... |
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proud2BlibKansan
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Sun Dec-21-08 09:06 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. What evidence do you have? |
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anigbrowl
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Mon Dec-22-08 04:30 AM Response to Reply #8 |
38. That's the point. The post you reply to was meant to mock tinfoilers |
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EstimatedProphet
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Mon Dec-22-08 08:54 AM Response to Reply #38 |
42. I'm glad you got it |
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Celebration
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Sun Dec-21-08 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
4. kick for any aviators here n/t |
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Dennis Donovan
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Sun Dec-21-08 08:57 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. I'm a licenced commercial pilot, but have been out of the game for 14 years... |
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annabanana
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Sun Dec-21-08 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
9. kickers . . . .n/t |
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Dennis Donovan
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Sun Dec-21-08 09:09 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Thank you - I encourage everyone to kick and rec this... |
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Richard D
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Sun Dec-21-08 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
11. Not relevant to the research . . . |
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no_hypocrisy
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Sun Dec-21-08 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
12. Planes need to be put under surveillance. Cars at airports get better guardianship. |
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Pachamama
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Sun Dec-21-08 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
13. While small plane crashes occur, there is much about this that as someone who just logged on to the |
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Dennis Donovan
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Sun Dec-21-08 09:51 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Like I said - I want to focus just on the facts surrounding the accident itself... |
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Cheap_Trick
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Sun Dec-21-08 10:00 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. And who runs the NTSB? |
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Dennis Donovan
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Sun Dec-21-08 10:03 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. I know - that's why I created this thread - to garner facts about the accident... |
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Cheap_Trick
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Sun Dec-21-08 10:28 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Thank you. |
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Pachamama
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Sun Dec-21-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #17 |
32. Dennis - I'm glad you are doing this. My husband is a pilot and is a member of the Civil Air Patrol |
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Dennis Donovan
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Sun Dec-21-08 09:44 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. I thought it would be productive - there are many "speculation" threads... |
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defendandprotect
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Mon Dec-22-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #13 |
61. The last 8 years...? This goes back to at least '63 coup on JFK -- |
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Peace Patriot
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Sun Dec-21-08 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
15. Know anything about the de-icer equipment on this plane? |
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Dennis Donovan
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Sun Dec-21-08 10:08 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. This aircraft is somewhat different than the Beech King Air involved in the Wellstone crash... |
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jljamison
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:37 PM Response to Reply #18 |
67. for sale ad does not indicate de-icing equipment |
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FraDon
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Sun Dec-21-08 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
29. Why wack somebody with a plane ? • Because is works SO well. |
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creeksneakers2
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Sun Dec-21-08 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
30. There is no evidence that the plane ran out of fuel |
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Dennis Donovan
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Sun Dec-21-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. The pic of the charred wreckage and witnesses accounts of a fire... |
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Frustratedlady
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Sun Dec-21-08 06:13 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. That is where I read it last night |
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RevolutionStartsNow
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Sun Dec-21-08 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
34. Here's what my pilot husband says... |
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anigbrowl
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Mon Dec-22-08 04:44 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. That's the biggest reason I think it could be an accident |
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Dennis Donovan
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Mon Dec-22-08 09:51 AM Response to Reply #34 |
44. In regards to sabotage and immediate failure, not necessarily... |
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jljamison
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:45 PM Response to Reply #34 |
69. switching tanks |
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Pilotguy
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Sun Dec-21-08 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
36. Picture of Plane |
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Dennis Donovan
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Mon Dec-22-08 05:51 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Ah - fuel injection! That eliminates carb ice... |
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DemoTex
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Mon Dec-22-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #40 |
46. Induction icing can be a problem in aircraft engines with fuel injection too. |
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Dennis Donovan
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Mon Dec-22-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Yea! Mac's here! |
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Pilotguy
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Mon Dec-22-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #46 |
54. Induction Icing |
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blogslut
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Mon Dec-22-08 12:20 AM Response to Original message |
37. Here's what I find odd |
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Dennis Donovan
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Mon Dec-22-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #37 |
45. That was just dumb luck... |
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Dennis Donovan
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Mon Dec-22-08 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
43. Morning kick |
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Pilotguy
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Mon Dec-22-08 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
49. Preliminary FAA Report |
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Dennis Donovan
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Mon Dec-22-08 11:57 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Well, icing is a possibility... |
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sarcasmo
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Mon Dec-22-08 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
56. Kick and Bookmarked, Cheney is one evil Man. |
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mn9driver
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Mon Dec-22-08 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
57. Some Saratoga II's have "weeping wing" deicing systems |
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Christa
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Mon Dec-22-08 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
58. K & R nt |
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Junkdrawer
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Mon Dec-22-08 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
59. Speculation: Electromagnetic Pulse and or radio jamming would seem to me... |
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rocktots
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Mon Dec-22-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Could have been icing |
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defendandprotect
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Mon Dec-22-08 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
62. Looks more than suspicious to me -- |
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Pilotguy
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Tue Dec-23-08 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
63. Video of crash scene |
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Dennis Donovan
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Tue Dec-23-08 05:48 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. I was just about to post this... |
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Dennis Donovan
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Tue Dec-23-08 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
65. In another thread - someone said the wreckage was removed by 10 pm that night: |
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laundry_queen
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:44 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. That would be odd. |
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robertpaulsen
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Tue Dec-23-08 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
70. Good news - an MSM link on the story. |
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