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lonestarnot
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Sun Dec-21-08 12:59 PM Original message |
CNN just said people were pissed they have had to go 8 days w/o power and |
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NutmegYankee
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
1. In New England - no power is likely no heat. |
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aquart
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. My cousins just moved to New Hampshire. |
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NutmegYankee
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
31. Also Wells don't work - so 8 days without a water supply. |
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lonestarnot
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #31 |
41. So job creation in FEMA or do away with it and create a new responsive agency? |
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NutmegYankee
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. Fix FEMA. |
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lonestarnot
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. No argument here! 29 more days! |
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JVS
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Tue Dec-23-08 08:12 AM Response to Reply #1 |
106. I thought that New England was reliant on home heating oil precisely to avoid that problem. |
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madeline_con
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
2. Maybe they have extra contrtactors out, like after hurricanes. |
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lonestarnot
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. No answers were really given as is the usual course of the bushilter days, but I'm seeing signs like |
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graywarrior
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
3. Imagine how Iraqi's feel |
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lonestarnot
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Trust me I imagine that every fucking day. |
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graywarrior
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. We need to toughen up over here |
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lonestarnot
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. People that haven't figured out we are on our own until now are really taking it hard |
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graywarrior
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:31 PM Response to Reply #14 |
30. I knew I was on my own in 5th grade with the witch Sister Marietta |
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lonestarnot
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #30 |
43. Damn she sounds like a charmer! Glad you learned early! |
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graywarrior
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Sun Dec-21-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #43 |
57. I hope she's still alive, the old bat. |
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madeline_con
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #9 |
26. People can't buid a bonfire in their living room. |
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CrispyQ
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
27. A great post by Bucky: |
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lonestarnot
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #27 |
39. Thanks for sharing Bucky! |
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NutmegYankee
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #3 |
34. Likely a lot warmer... |
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graywarrior
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Like their asses are on fire |
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NutmegYankee
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:55 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. white phosphorus can have that effect. |
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bdamomma
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Mon Dec-22-08 10:06 AM Response to Reply #3 |
83. exactly. |
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Phred42
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
6. Just another example of why we must have DECENTRALIZRED sources of power. |
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lonestarnot
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #6 |
45. Sounds good to me. But what if you are a dem in a local area of thugs and they have this knowledge? |
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Phred42
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Sun Dec-21-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #45 |
55. It still would require Regulation of some sort |
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Waiting For Everyman
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Sun Dec-21-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #55 |
66. I completely agree with that. |
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Phred42
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Mon Dec-22-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #66 |
80. The Power Companies would devolve |
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KakistocracyHater
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Sun Dec-21-08 09:17 PM Response to Reply #45 |
78. try to find local like-minded people |
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Tesha
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Sun Dec-21-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #6 |
58. The problem with this ice storm would not have been ameliorated by decentralization. |
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lumberjack_jeff
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Mon Dec-22-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
103. Public power is a great thing. I'm really glad to live in the west for that reason. n/t |
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Lars39
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
7. There's a shortage of those trained. |
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Trajan
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. There are PLENTY of young people .... |
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Lars39
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Here's an example of a lineman school: |
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lonestarnot
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. They are in for a shock with Obama roll when they will be required to train more people! |
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Kalyke
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Sun Dec-21-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #24 |
69. Did you really mean to say "shock?" |
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Edweird
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Sun Dec-21-08 08:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
73. I'm sorry, you are incorrect. "State electrician" is NOT a Lineman. We call then "narrowbacks". |
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Trajan
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Sun Dec-21-08 11:54 PM Response to Reply #73 |
79. I stand corrected ... |
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Doremus
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Mon Dec-22-08 10:19 AM Response to Reply #79 |
87. Those links are all for the same employer. |
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Trajan
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Mon Dec-22-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #87 |
101. I have no idea .... |
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Edweird
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #87 |
111. In South Florida it's not so hot. Companies are laying guys off. However, |
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Edweird
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:20 PM Response to Reply #79 |
110. You have to be qualified to work on live primary lines. That typically means a journeyman license. |
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lonestarnot
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. I bet we see a growth spurt there in jobs! Woohoo! |
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The Gunslinger
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Tue Dec-23-08 08:47 AM Response to Reply #7 |
107. I wonder if a line man is like most other skilled trades in the USA. |
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Dappleganger
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
10. Living in Florida, we're used to this and prepared for it... |
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peace13
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
11. When Ike hit Ohio in September we had no power for over a week. |
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itsrobert
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
12. It's "Climate Change" |
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watercolors
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
13. During hurricane season |
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lonestarnot
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Oh so Katrina victims were just spoiled, old people with subzero temps in their homes who can't |
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acmavm
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. How much does a generator cost might I ask? |
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lonestarnot
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
42. depends on how big it is, I think. anywhere from a grand up. |
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acmavm
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. I guess so. Or maybe they have a generator up there instead. Save on |
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lonestarnot
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. LOL. I want a piece of THAT ass! |
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bighart
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Sun Dec-21-08 06:39 PM Response to Reply #42 |
62. you can get a generator large enough to run your heat |
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Maine-ah
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Mon Dec-22-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #62 |
104. during the winter |
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knitter4democracy
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Sun Dec-21-08 06:22 PM Response to Reply #13 |
60. 1. Those cost a small fortune. 2. Where do you store it? |
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flvegan
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Sun Dec-21-08 06:44 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. They can be expensive. I bought one a few years ago |
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snappyturtle
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Mon Dec-22-08 12:11 PM Response to Reply #64 |
93. I bought a HOnda generator years ago and it's great BUT you need |
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conscious evolution
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Tue Dec-23-08 09:44 AM Response to Reply #60 |
108. Then where do you get fuel? |
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knitter4democracy
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Tue Dec-23-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #108 |
109. That's true, too. And you can't store it for long. |
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glowing
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
16. 8 days is long up there.. 2/ 3 days people can hang if they're prepared. |
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lonestarnot
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Thanks for the clarification snow/ice. Also like your solutions! |
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glowing
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. AND me I'm in Florida.. Guess I have a glutton for punishment.. LOL. |
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lonestarnot
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:32 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Not much snow or ice there either, I'm in AZ, and have the stuff up north but not where I'm living/ |
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Feron
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
20. People need to be patient. |
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WritingIsMyReligion
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #20 |
35. It's hard to be patient when no power = no heat. |
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Duckhunter935
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
23. Underground |
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lonestarnot
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Well doesn't the ground freeze too? |
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Lisa0825
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Sun Dec-21-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #25 |
54. The problem with ice storms and windstorms is falling trees and limbs |
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Tesha
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Sun Dec-21-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. Drawbacks? Backhoes. Other than that and the initial expense, not so many. (NT) |
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NutmegYankee
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. It's easier in some areas than others. |
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lonestarnot
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. And if a line breaks underground due to freeze, wouldn't it be the same problem just digging instead |
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NutmegYankee
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #33 |
50. Worse. |
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tkmorris
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Sun Dec-21-08 07:49 PM Response to Reply #33 |
72. Wouldn't happen |
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JerseygirlCT
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Sun Dec-21-08 07:38 PM Response to Reply #29 |
70. Yeah, we grow rocks here in the soil |
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lukasahero
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Mon Dec-22-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #23 |
94. You don't live in New England, do you? |
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
36. They know they are paying top dollar for something they don't even receive reliably |
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Spectral Music
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. Exactly. Is New England's electricity privatized as well? |
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NutmegYankee
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. Oh Hell yes. $0.17 per kilowatt hour if it's a cheap month. |
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Sun Dec-21-08 08:53 PM Response to Reply #52 |
74. That's why the customer service is slow and probably why the electricity is out for so long |
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Mudoria
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Mon Dec-22-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #74 |
92. Bullshit.. |
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Marrah_G
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Sun Dec-21-08 06:51 PM Response to Reply #44 |
67. I get mine through "National Grid" in Mass |
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ileus
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
38. Time for a wood stove. |
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lonestarnot
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Sun Dec-21-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. And the pollutants from wood burning and the trees? |
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NutmegYankee
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Sun Dec-21-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #40 |
53. minimal use isn't a problem. |
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MadHound
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Sun Dec-21-08 07:41 PM Response to Reply #40 |
71. They've got catalytic converters for wood stoves now |
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lse7581011
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Sun Dec-21-08 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
56. I Am Becoming Seriously Depressed! |
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stillcool
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Sun Dec-21-08 09:01 PM Response to Reply #56 |
75. that sucks so bad... |
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lonestarnot
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Mon Dec-22-08 10:46 AM Response to Reply #56 |
90. Are you ok? |
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lse7581011
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Mon Dec-22-08 01:24 PM Response to Reply #90 |
97. I Am Doing Better! |
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lonestarnot
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:54 AM Response to Reply #97 |
105. Glad to hear the sun is shining down on you! |
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Waiting For Everyman
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Sun Dec-21-08 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
61. Utilities should not be privatized - none of them. |
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NNN0LHI
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Sun Dec-21-08 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
63. It was an ice storm that forced me to purchase a 5 KW generator about ten years ago |
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Marrah_G
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Sun Dec-21-08 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
65. My co-worker in northern mass wont have power until after xmas |
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earth mom
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Sun Dec-21-08 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
68. I don't blame people for getting mad. The power companies don't inform people when |
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sarcasmo
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Sun Dec-21-08 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
76. What a nightmare in the bitter cold. Kick and Rec |
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Radical Activist
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Sun Dec-21-08 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
77. private or publicly owned? |
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Fumesucker
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Mon Dec-22-08 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
81. You can get backup generators for as little as $100.. |
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1776Forever
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Mon Dec-22-08 10:15 AM Response to Reply #81 |
86. Thanks for the link! |
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Fumesucker
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Mon Dec-22-08 10:34 AM Response to Reply #86 |
88. You're welcome, I've had that kind of generator since the 1973 ice storm in Atlanta |
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Doremus
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Mon Dec-22-08 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
82. Utilities can't improve their infrastructure. CEOs and shareholders need that $$$. |
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tblue37
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Mon Dec-22-08 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
84. Now, that's a perfect example of cutting off your nose to spite your face! |
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1776Forever
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Mon Dec-22-08 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
85. This to me is like the gas industry - they fight NOT to have power! |
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AwakeAtLast
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Mon Dec-22-08 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
89. We had an ice storm here a couple years ago - some without power for 3 weeks! |
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shadowknows69
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Mon Dec-22-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #89 |
96. Been through that |
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Pacifist Patriot
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Mon Dec-22-08 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
91. Then again, perhaps some people should get some perspective... |
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shadowknows69
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Mon Dec-22-08 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
95. People are idiots |
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tammywammy
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Mon Dec-22-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #95 |
98. No no no, it's supposed to be immediate |
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shadowknows69
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Mon Dec-22-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. I've been there, it sucks bad. Especially up here in colder climes. |
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Raven
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Mon Dec-22-08 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
99. I AM 12 DAYS WITHOUT POWER IN NH and...this is what I have to say: |
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lumberjack_jeff
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Mon Dec-22-08 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
102. Because y'all don't have public power. |
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