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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 01:02 PM
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Single Payer: Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Zahler.
Edited on Wed Oct-21-09 01:03 PM by denem
As per LBN, now, as the "Public Option" is getting rebranded as Medicare, it strikes me that Universal Health Care would have stood more of a chance if advocates had not chosen such an insanely Orwellian term as 'Single Payer' in the first place.
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 01:07 PM
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1. If Medicare was the predestined answer all along
then they might have needed to manufacture a name to switch FROM. It's entirely Obama's approach to offer one option and arrive at something else later only after waiting for the GOP to soil itself.
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 01:20 PM
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2. To rebrand the public option as Medicare is
disingenuous. The public option is not Medicare - not even close to it.

There is nothing Orwellian about the term 'single payer' beyond the idiocy of the people who chose to make it such a big, bad scary thing (I'm not referring to you, btw - but all those people who jumped on the 'ooh, scary socialist stuff' bandwagon). Call it single-payer, call it universal health care, call it nationalized health care - it doesn't matter. It is the only real reform that would make a substantive difference and it's a damned shame that as a nation we're too cowardly and too self-absorbed to recognize it.

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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 01:50 PM
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6. Lets see: Single Payer; Single Party. One letter different. Yep, that's a great brand.
Edited on Wed Oct-21-09 01:50 PM by denem
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 01:21 PM
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3. Orwellian?
Edited on Wed Oct-21-09 01:22 PM by Oregone
In single payer, there is a single payer for all medical expenses. It describes a structure, not a specific implementation. In Canada, its implementation is referred to as Medicare. Often here, single payer advocates say "Medicare for All".


What is Orwellian is branding a self-sustaining system with limited enrollment "Medicare for Everyone". You trying to be sarcastic?
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 01:32 PM
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4. I know single payer is the description of a structure. So is electric fillament illumination.
I'd still market it as a light bulb.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 01:39 PM
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5. And its often marketed as "Medicare for All"
But we all know that can mean anything, being that is close to the co-opted term being applied to the Public Option now.
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