Congressman Grayson and Congressman Weiner ........

[Stinky The Clown]

...... are two men currently high on my "Admire" list, both for pretty much the same reason: their stance on health care and their unwillingness to stand meekly and go along to get along.

Both men have command of facts. Both men are fearless in standing down the opposition. Both men seem prepared to metaphorically "fight to the death" to see real health care reform happen.

But I see a clear difference in style. Mr Weiner is more cerebral. Mr Grayson is more in your face.

Which do you prefer? Who do you think is more effective?

[katty]

1. yes, they have been great-one, two punch...and they just

keep going!

[JuniperLea]

2. Kerry whipped out a spine recently too...

Now where'd that thread go... ?

[politicasista]

8. To be fair

He had one during the effort to filabuster Alito, Kerry/Feingold, endorsing Obama (when it was risky to to so), etc.

[JuniperLea]

20. True... point taken...

I really liked his hard stance.

[politicasista]

27. Ok. True there n/t

[Kazak]

3. Grayson is the blocker...

Weiner the ball carrier.

Both absolutely vital if we're going to win the game.

Go team!

[bobbolink]

4. BOTH styles are important. It's not "either/or", it's "both/and"

Grayson has grabbed the limelight with is style, but Weiner will be engaging cerbral types who are immune to limelighters.

We desperately need 'em both!

[arthritisR_US]

14. you've expressed my exact same thoughts! :-) n/t

[bobbolink]

17. OMG... great minds in the same gutter.

:rofl:

[arthritisR_US]

22. great mind think alike....

fools seldom differ....:hide: ;-)

[bobbolink]

24. It takes courage to "differ"----and that is what is so refreshing about both Grayson and Weiner.

It's much easier to go along to get along....especially when it's rewarded by corporate $$$$$

[arthritisR_US]

28. yep, and what I like about those two men is that they remember who elected

them and why. They aren't worrying about elections in the future but doing what has to be done here and now!

[Stinky The Clown]

30. .... and in so doin g, they get even MORE support

I sure wish the old hacks would take notes at how these two guys do it.

[arthritisR_US]

31. you and me both! n/t

[DireStrike]

5. I have to prefer Grayson because his type is in shorter supply in the party

Weiner deserves a lot of praise and recognition as well. Thank you for bringing him up.

[madokie]

6. I love 'em both

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

7. Love em both. Both approaches are needed. So glad they filled the vacuum. nt

[bobbolink]

19. It's not filled yet. We need literally hundreds more.

If Dems had a brain, they would see the great response Grayson is getting, and follow suit.

But so many would rather be the recipients of corporate $$$$. :(

[Stinky The Clown]

26. I agree with you completely.

And that agreement should not be construed as taking anything away from the "cerebral" types. But Grayson is a model for what we may well need more right now - great soundbites that are factual, spot on, and rile up the base. I will freely admit that Grayson, all by himself, has buoyed my own mood on our chances for health care reform.

Again, none of that is to take one whit away from Weiner..

[CTyankee]

9. A good team. I love them both.

Perfect example of the Democratic Party's diversity. We have all types. And we have the best. Weiner and Grayson personify that. Let's just appreciate that diversity of approaches and thank goddess we have them on our side...

[spanone]

10. i like both of them and both of their styles...equally effective imo

[nadinbrzezinski]

11. With the Elites, Wiener, with the base Grayson

:hi:

[zbdent]

12. At least congressman Weiner didn't hide behind a more tough sounding pseudonym ...

like, oh, say, "Savage" ...

[BrklynLiberal]

13. Mr. Grayson's style may not appear to be cerebral, but his pedigree sure is.

From Wikipedia...

Grayson was born in the Bronx, New York and grew up in the tenements. He graduated from Bronx High School of Science and worked his way through Harvard University, graduating in three years, summa cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa.

He worked as an economist for two years, but then returned to Harvard for graduate studies. Within four years, he earned a law degree with honors from Harvard Law School, a masters in public policy from the John F. Kennedy School of Government and completed the course work and passed the general exams for a Ph.D. in government.<3><4>

After writing his master's thesis on gerontology, Grayson founded the Alliance for Aging Research, and served as an officer of the organization for more than 20 years.

Grayson was employed as a law clerk at the Colorado Supreme Court in 1983, and at the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals from 1984 to 1985, where he worked with such judges as Abner Mikva, Robert Bork, and two judges who later joined the U.S. Supreme Court: Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Antonin Scalia. He was an associate at the Washington D.C. firm of Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson for five years, where he specialized in contract law. In 1991 he founded the law firm Grayson, Kubli which concentrated on government contract law. He was a lecturer at the George Washington University government contracts program and a frequent speaker on the topic.<4>

Grayson also was the first President of IDT Corporation, a publicly traded billion-dollar telecommunications company.<1><5> Grayson was ranked as the 12th-wealthiest member of Congress based on financial disclosure forms with a minimum net worth of $31.12 million, according to Roll Call.<6>

In recent years, Grayson specialized in war profiteer and whistleblower cases aimed at Iraq war contractors who allegedly overbilled the U.S. government. One contractor, Custer Battles, allegedly billed the government $15 million for inspecting allegedly non-existent civilian flights at Baghdad Airport, and $10 million on a time and materials contract that had cost 3.5 million. The contractor received payment in newly printed cash direct from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.<4> Grayson was enabled to prosecute fraud through the False Claims Act and its qui tam provisions.<11>

While pursuing the whistleblower cases, Grayson worked from a home office in Orlando where he lived with his wife and five children. In 2006, a Wall Street Journal reporter described Grayson as "waging a one-man war against contractor fraud in Iraq" and as a "fierce critic of the war in Iraq" whose car was "emblazoned" with bumper stickers such as "Bush lied, people died".[

[arthritisR_US]

15. I had no idea. Wow, that's one impressive chap! Thanks for the info :-)

[bobbolink]

21. It takes 'cerebral" to cut right through to the heart of the matter.

He just has a gift for speaking in a way that engages our guts.

[rucky]

16. Grayson has the sound bites, but Weiner

has a gift for making something complicated and controversial sound simple and sane. If they were on a Presidential ticket, I think I'd put Weiner at the top and let Grayson be the attack dog.

[HipChick]

18. Weiner is hot,and easy on the eye...Grayson has a great shirt/tie collection..

[bobbolink]

23. I'm so very glad you are able to get beyond the surface.

:eyes:

[BrklynLiberal]

25. LOL :D

[HipChick]

29. should be painfully obvious...

:sarcasm:

[ddeclue]

32. I've never met Anthony Weiner but please don't underestimate Alan Grayson's intelligence.

I've had many a conversation with him and he is truly a brilliant man. He's not always "in your face" either, right now he's just in the Republicans faces because they've earned it.


Doug D.

[Stinky The Clown]

33. Where did you get the notion ......

..... that anyone's intelligence was being underestimated?

The OP was about style. The OP's author (moi) is capable of nuance.