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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 08:22 AM
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We are so fucked in Afghanistan.....
Karzai a key partner in Afghanistan, Obama says
By Jennifer Loven - The Associated Press
Posted : Friday Apr 9, 2010 10:51:57 EDT

WASHINGTON President Obama says Afghanistans President Hamid Karzai remains a critical partner with the United States in the fight against terrorism despite Karzais harsh recent criticism of the West.

In an interview published Friday, Obama said he still thinks Karzai is committed to giving his government greater legitimacy by helping its people and rooting out corruption. He said that if the U.S. is to ensure that Afghanistan is not a haven for extremist organizations, it must succeed on military and civilians fronts there, and Karzai is going to be a critical partner in this effort.

Karzai has infuriated the White House with accusations that the United Nations and the international community interfered in last years fraud-tarnished presidential election in Afghanistan. The White House suggested that it could even cancel Karzais planned visit to the White House on May 12 if such troubling comments continued. But the tone seems to be softening.

We have gotten through this period, James Jones, Obamas national security adviser, told reporters traveling back from Prague with the president on Air Force One.

Jones said that Obama wrote and had delivered a thank-you note to Karzai for hosting him on short notice during the U.S. presidents trip to Afghanistan on March 28. The note made no mention of the recent controversies.


Rest of article at: http://marinecorpstimes.com/news/2010/04/ap_afghanistan_obama_karzai_040910/%20
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robinblue Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 08:24 AM
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1. Yes, I agree
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 08:26 AM
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2. Indeed...
and it's our own damn fault, unfortunately. :(
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 08:36 AM
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4. Bush's fault. He decided to open up a second front for American empire.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 09:15 AM
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8. Bush started it, and Obama has continued it
so he is now accountable as well.
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protocol rv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 08:27 AM
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3. Maybe the US Should schedule departure from Afghsnistan
It's similar to Viet Nam, just more remote.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 08:38 AM
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5. sure, he's a corrupt druggie bastard, but he's OUR corrupt druggie bastard, dammit!
:eyes:
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 09:08 AM
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6. The Military- Industrial- Congressional Complex is doing just fine in Afghanistan.
And we peons just need to shut the fuck up and count our meager blessings.
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protocol rv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 09:10 AM
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7. Lobbies which influence US foreign policy
There are several lobbies which influence US foreign policy. With regards to Afghanistan, Iraq, and similar points, the two most influential are the Israel Lobby and the Military Industrial Complex Lobbies.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 09:18 AM
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9. a critical partner ... like he stole the election but what the hell? nt
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 09:32 AM
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10. gotta Stay the Course,..........not easy to get out,,,,,,,yadda yadda!
nt
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 09:38 AM
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11. Gotta break what ya fixed... We owe it to the people of (______________)
Democracy is for everybody, you know... Can't stop now when we're so close... Can't stop now that we've come this far and haven't anything yet to show for it... Must double down now, or else all who've died died in vain...

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protocol rv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 09:40 AM
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13. Maybe after Kandahar
US forces are about to destroy Kandahar. This is the main city in the south of Afghanistan, and right now they are circling it, while the Taliban forces are digging in. There has been quite a flow of information from Iraq to Afghanistan, and there are people who fought during the siege of Fallujah and the battles in Ramadi now in Kandahar, and in Peshawar, organizing the resistance to take place in Kandahar. And this resistance has an unusual nature: it's intended to cause US casualties, not to defend the city as such. So the result is going to be carnage the likes of which we haven't seen since Fallujah was destroyed by the imperial army.

So maybe after kandahar is destroyed, the American people will realize this is an endless series of battles. you will have to destroy a lot of cities, and in the end it will be futile. Israel versus Palestine is the key - there's no peace as long as you don't force the israelis to behave like a civilized nation. And president Obama knows this, and so do the Israelis. but you, the American people are kept in the dark, with your press muzzled and your leaders bowing towards their true masters.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 09:40 AM
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12. I wonder if Karzai is doing this to make Obama look bad
Karzai's strings are being pulled by Bushco after all.
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protocol rv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 10:49 AM
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15. You are not "helping"
You conquered the country. Afghanistan is at best a client or subservient state, at worst a colony. They would do a lot better if you go away. All you have to do is pay for all the damage you caused. Don't deceive yourselves, you never help much.
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