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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 05:50 PM
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What's up with this BS around here lately that's letting Bush off the hook?
Granted, the man was not some kind of evil mastermind in the mold of Ming the Merciless.

But make no mistake about it, he was the prime mover behind the attempted molestation of our Constitution and our economy.

One day, may he and all his cronies rot in prison.

In other news, GO BLUE!

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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 05:53 PM
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1. K&R, just to pretend I know what this is about.
:rofl:
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 05:56 PM
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2. I agree
I also think that there is not enough conversation about the Massey mines and "cronyism".

Nominated David Lauriski -- an ex-mining company executive --- to post of Assistant Secretary of Labor for Mine Safety and Health.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Politicians/Bush's_First_Year.html

David Lauriski
http://www.oldamericancentury.org/bushco/cronyism.htm

<snip>
Shortly after taking office, Lauriski bragged to a group of coal industry executives that his regulatory agenda "is quite a bit shorter than some past agendas." Indeed, death warrants usually tend towards brevity. Part of Lauriski's abbreviated agenda is to reduce the number of times a mining company has to sample coal dust levels inside the tunnels, a move that is certain to increase incidence of black lung disease. And yes, Lauriski wants to get rid of the chest X-ray program that tests miners for black lung disease. Lauriski also wants to slash the number of mine inspectors by 25 percent.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 05:58 PM
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3. Prosecute the war criminals...
... keep the records in the BENTLEY LIBRARY and ARCHIVES on campus where they be seen by all.


(back at ya...)

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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 06:11 PM
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4. when Obama sometimes acts like Bush, criticizing Bush suddenly seems so....uncool lol nt
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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 07:35 PM
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9. Bingo.
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 06:13 PM
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5. The Bush family has been a cancer on our republic since WWI.
Dubya follows in this wretched tradition of war for profit.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 06:14 PM
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6. So you think it might be an M thing. If I had to interpret your post, I would have thoughts on M
Edited on Sat Apr-10-10 06:28 PM by RandomThoughts
But my question would be is that M in reporting, or M in actual comments by people, or M in filtering of comments or distortion of stories?

Personally I have some disagreements with two tier justice, and part of that is seen by not prosecuting people like Bush for many things done. And that is actually a big part of M

But on the topic of M, it is seems more of an attempt to create the illusion of power to gain power. For instance, a person can speak as a M leader just by making comments like they are a M leader.


For instance, we pretty much all know the health bill was originally negotiated behind closed doors, in theory to get support to pass bill, things like the public option were taken out of the bill, then everything was done to get the bill in its original form passed.

and when Baucus was being criticised, he said he was doing what President Obama wanted, and when Lieberman was criticized he said he was doing what President Obama wanted, and then after bill passed, Bill Clinton said President Obama kept his word. So is that Clinton taking a leading role by being able to make such a declaration. If you say something that judges anothers actions, then you elevate yourself above that person.

Little correlations and events like that point to a story behind the story, would you say that is an M story, or a story to get M support? Or a story to claim M leadership.

In the same way, do you think that Bush not being prosecuted is M taking care of M? I think much of that is to create the illusion of control, or people moving in groups, one of which would be M. M works more by osmosis where ideas flow through the groups, and many people seem to try to both elevate the idea of M control, and then there position in M by comments.

Anyway could you explain your comment in more detail?

Note I assume M stands for Mason. And by not saying Mason, but by posting only M, you can then post that M stands for anything else, and avoid actual conversation on a topic.



Although I find my own meaning to clips and movies, many movies are pro M, and some are against M.

Lord of the Rings has the eye as bad, and the eye is the symbol used by M for higher power, possibly a jab at M saying that Tolkien had a different view of such things then M.

M has many views on things, but the pyramid view, or the male view is most common. Where everyone on the bottom serves to help someone above them, making fewer at the top and more at the bottom. Also there seems to be a bit of protecting ones own group above others. Interestingly the concepts taught by Christianity, and also many other religions like Buddhism puts community at the top, the inverted pyramid or V. In that view, the many people or community is at the top, and they all try to help people below them up by ideas of kindness and sharing.

That concept makes a distinction between the invisible at the top of the Mason Pyramid, and what would be the same type of thing, but available to all at the top of the V shaped society. Since where the pyramid eventually reaches the point of just a single block, the V goes on forever in levels.

Anyway, Just rambling some thoughts on M, and not being a M, if you mean mason, I would be interested in what you think of it.



Or were you just saying Bush is still pushing his crew to match correlations to make moves on M flow to keep in line and not get prosecuted?



Edit: someone just posted 'the blind leading the blind' That is the best truth of most groups. Nobody knows for sure what goes on, and every once in a while someone gets an idea an people sort of say, that sounds good, why not give it a try. But for the most part, people are taking there best guesses at what will work in a world where the equations are so far beyond conception that all you can do is take best guess and forge a path that seems to be better.

You could say the Republican revolution was blind leading the blind, it sorta sounded good, like it could work, but parts of the equation were left out, and it failed. But is that because all people are blind in some way, or because people are willfully blind to things they dont want to see.

That seems to be more the point, not that it is all to much to conceive, but do you do the most to try and see your own actions, or as many say, check your actions. I think that is a good part of M, constantly checking if you are thinking and feeling correctly, knowing you don't have the complete picture and in my view that includes the humility to try and get the most people with partial pictures together to try and forge forward always trying to do no harm. So it includes listening and advocating with thought, not just following, even though it is so much more comfortable to follow then to try and add your piece to the thoughts trying to move forward.

I watched a scifi I disagree with called the Trippids, it was a show where almost everyone was blind but a few people, I think it is more important to know everyone is blind in some ways, so always checking your own thoughts on issues to find your own blind spots.
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 06:24 PM
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7. H'MMMM
hmmmm
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 06:26 PM
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8. The boss said "back off".
So the chimp walks.
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D23MIURG23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 07:39 PM
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10. I'm unreccing this.
It needs more cowbell, and besides, I'm a Spartans fan.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 07:39 PM
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11. K&R #8. I think the revisionism started with a thread listing NIXON's Liberal
accomplishments--like the EPA, Earth Day, etc.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 07:52 PM
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12. I don't think the BS is around here, it's in DC pretending to represent "us". n/t
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 08:42 PM
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13. Because the cheerleaders got their marching orders that W would not be prosecuted.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 08:42 PM
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14. Rec. But I respectfully disagree. Georgie W. Bush has never had an original thought
in his whole pampered life. I am not excusing him from his responsibility for the damage done while he was "in charge". But the man is an idiot, literally.

While I agree that his administration should be all in prison (Cheney waterboarded), I think George (the idiot) Bush should have to spend his remaining days on earth working the counter at McDonald's for minimum wage. Yes George I would like fries with that.
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