Glenn Beck shocked that people would compare Arizona's govt to Nazis, who would ever do that?

[ck4829]

Glenn Beck got all worked up yesterday defending Arizonans from the outrageous, slanderous comparisons of their fair new police state to Nazi Germany.

Beck: "Arizona sure is putting the AZ in Nazi. I really hate to rain on the hate parade, but could we slow down for just a second here and ask: You’re out of your mind? Are you comparing the systematic cold-blooded extermination of millions of Jews, to America making sure people are here legally? The parallels are non-existent."

Glenn must really hate this hate parade guy then:

"Now you've got the former vice-president of the United States and a Nobel Prize winner looking your kid in the eye and telling them, 'You know what? You know things that your mom and dad don't.'

... The government and its friends are indoctrinating our children for the control of their minds, your freedom, and our choice and our future. It must STOP! Because history -- when properly taught -- has already shown us where it leads. This is what Nazi leader Josef Goebbels said about the Hitler Youth."

What hateful nutjob could have said that, huh, Glenn?

http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/glenn-beck-outraged-comparisons-nazi
http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/al-gore-creating-another-hitler-yout

[AsahinaKimi]

1. Has he been scheduled for a Mental examination yet?

Probably is over due.

[hobbit709]

2. WAY overdue!

[meow2u3]

3. If Sheriff Arpaio has his way

there will be the extermination of millions of Mexican-Americans, as well as "Anglos" who speak Spanish as a second language :scared:

[AndyA]

4. Keep it up, Glenn. Every time you open your mouth you lose more viewers.

Every time you speak you prove what a freak and psychotic you are.

Just keep it up. Idiot.

[Dawgs]

5. Wrong place!!

Sorry!

[MadHound]

6. I really, really hate to say this, but he's got a point.

Comparing what could possibly happen in Arizona, racial profiling of brown skinned people, to what happened in Nazi Germany, systematic identification, looting and killing of Jews and others is a bit over the top.

And yes, it is just as, if not more so, over the top when he makes Nazi comparisons about the Obama administration.

Frankly too many people, both right and left, make these sorts of off the cuff Nazi comparisons, thus cheapening, obscuring and forgetting what actually took place in Germany.

[hobbit709]

7. It started small in 1933 and got bigger as it went on.

The list of undesirables got larger and larger.
The camps and killings didn't start full-blown.

If you don't believe that I can put you in touch with someone direct experience-my mother.

[MadHound]

10. Thank you, but I'm fully cognizant of Nazi history,

After all, I study it, write about it, and publish on it.

Yes, it did start "small" if you call the systematic identification, followed by boycotts and forcing Jews from small towns to large cities, then looting their remaining property small.

The use of the term Nazi in relation to racial profiling does cheapen the term. It also cheapens the term when the right uses it in regard to people it doesn't like on the left. Yes, I know, the term Nazi has been tossed about pretty frivolously over the past fifty, sixty years. But frankly I don't think that it is an excuse for cheapening the term any further. The actions of the Nazis were horrible, brutal, and using that term has certain connotations that most people simply fail to appreciate. Using it in such a manner, in regards to racial profiling does cheapen the term, and obscures the real horror of what went on in Nazi Germany.

Do I think that we're approaching that level of horror, yes, slowly but inexorably we are. But we're not there yet, in fact given the reaction of both Arizonans and the rest of the country to this despicable law, we actually might be further away than I first thought. I just think that using the term Nazi in this context draws a comparison that is, at this point in time, inapt.

[hobbit709]

12. It wasn't just Jews

On my mother's side of the family, they were all Socialists-they got on the list too.

[MadHound]

14. Jews, gays, socialists, communists, the list was long

Interestingly enough do you know which US company actually enabled the Nazis to identify these people?

IBM.

[hobbit709]

15. And IBM got their lease payments all through the war, funneled by Swiss banks.

[MadHound]

17. Not just Swiss banks, though they were the main conduit

There were other minor ones, especially in Vichy France, that helped with that. In the last couple of months even the US helped out IBM via their use of a special IBM (actually Military Records Units) division. IBM then went on to sell computers to the USSR during the 1950's

I take it you've read the Edwin Black book. There's actually much more to that. The US has finally begun releasing tons of documents concerning not only IBM, but other US corporations who were involved in aiding Nazi Germany. This is treasure trove sitting in the National Archives that has barely been scratched. I spent a few days there last summer, and will be going back for more research this summer. You can expect numerous books coming out over the next decade on this subject as more and more historians go through these records.

Of course since they're concerning events that are 65-80 years ago, people tend to dismiss what happened and don't get the connections or full implications of such history. A shame really, since it seems to me that past actions many times predicate current and future ones.

[hobbit709]

18. I learned quite a bit from my mother and grandfather.

My grandfather was a minor level bureaucrat in the Austrian government during those years. He also was a member of O5-the Austrian resistance.

[liberal N proud]

11. Requiring people to carry papers proving they are citizens isn't a little like Nazi Germany?

I suppose until the start rounding people up and doing experiments on them, we can't say that.

[MadHound]

13. Actually there are many countries that require citizens to carry papers

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_identity_card_policies_by_country>

Are these countries "a little like Nazi Germany?"

Look, I don't like this law any more than anybody else, my beef is using the term Nazi where it is really not applicable, where it simply becomes overinflated hyperbole and actually cheapens what the victims of the Nazi regime had to suffer.

[Ohio Metal]

16. Reductio ad Hitlerum

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum

[Fuzz]

8. This is a joke, like from the onion right?

[Hubert Flottz]

9. Well Glenn have you never heard from you mamma that...

"The truth hurts sometimes" Take a time out Glenn and have your little cry and then, f*cking get over it!