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Sheepshank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 02:00 PM
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A law ensuring brown skinned human beings are treated as sub-human
Edited on Thu Apr-29-10 02:43 PM by Sheepshank
So I watched Tweety. Arizona's immigration law came up with an interview with John Huppenthal, a Republican state Senator from Arizona. He clearly stated that police can only ask for immigration papers from those that are already stopped during the commission of another crime. A huge big fat lie I tell ya. How can he lie so miserably? So I went to Politifact check for confirmation. What I read there not only disputed Huppenthal, but reading further my heart broke. Please tell me if I misunderstood something here:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/apr/28/john-huppenthal/arizona-immigration-law-requires-police-see-crime-/

"For any lawful contact made by a law enforcement official or a law enforcement agency of this state or a law enforcement official or a law enforcement agency of a county, city, town or other political subdivision of this state where reasonable suspicion exists that the person is an alien who is unlawfully present in the United States, a reasonable attempt shall be made, when practicable, to determine the immigration status of the person, except if the determination may hinder or obstruct an investigation."

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There are other reasons to believe that someone could be questioned on their immigration status without a police officer actually suspecting a crime. Jennifer Chacon, law professor at the University of California (Irvine), raises concerns about the phrase "lawful contact."

"Lawful contact can occur in many instances when there is no reasonable suspicion of a crime," she said. "A consensual encounter, such as asking a police officer for directions, reporting a crime to a police officer, or being a victim of a crime or a witness and being questioned by a police officer, is a 'lawful encounter.'


Let's see if I have this wrong? A pedophile, rapist, serial killer, bully, racist, any other hate crime has just been given a free pass to destroy the lives of illegal immigrants and their children. These victim immigrants cannot/will not complain to authorities for protection. The criminal element has just be permitted to treat other human beings in a sub human manner.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 02:04 PM
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1. so if I lard on a really thick sveedisher accent
and pretend to not understand one out of three words, they are REQUIRED to investigate my immigration status, and when they find out I'm not an immigrant, do I

1. get charged with obstruction of justice for faking a thick accent
2. get a stamp on my passport indicating I've already been checked 30 times this week
3. get to sue for damages in time, money or unlawful detention.

Seriously, this law is going to get taken apart a dozen different ways.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 02:13 PM
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2. You have it exactly right. Any encounter that is not UNlawful requires
officers to ask about citizenship status, including questioning the VICTIMS of crime about their immigration status if those officers deem it "reasonable" to believe that the victim is unlawfully present in the US.
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Sheepshank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 02:26 PM
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3. I was hoping I misunderstood :(
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-10 02:46 PM
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4. You didn't. The effects of this law could be horrible in many ways. nt
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