POLL: More Americans Favor Than Oppose Arizona Immigration Law (51/39)

[jefferson_dem]

:eyes:

Hideous. Let's put all of our civil rights up for popular vote. How's about that?

More Americans Favor Than Oppose Arizona Immigration Law
Among those who have heard of law, 51% favor and 39% oppose it
by Jeffrey M. Jones

PRINCETON, NJ -- More than three-quarters of Americans have heard about the state of Arizona's new immigration law, and of these, 51% say they favor it and 39% oppose it.



These results are based on a new Gallup poll conducted April 27-28, in the days after Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer's signing the bill into law. The law makes it a state crime for illegal immigrants to be in the country, and allows Arizona law enforcement officials to detain those suspected of being in the country illegally unless they can prove otherwise. The law has sparked protests in Arizona and other parts of the U.S., and calls for economic boycotts of the state.

Nationally, 62% of Republicans support the law (including 75% of Republicans who have heard about it). Democrats are more likely to oppose (45%) than favor (27%) the law, and a majority of Democrats familiar with the law (56%) oppose it. Independents are somewhat more likely to favor (37%) than oppose (29%) the law, with half of those who have heard about it in favor.



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http://www.gallup.com/poll/127598/Americans-Favor-Oppose-Arizona-Immigration-Law.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=syndication&utm_content=morelink&utm_term=Politics%20-%20USA

[Drunken Irishman]

1. Of course. Most Americans are white. What do they have to worry about?

[madmax]

3. Nah, the thing is.....

a lot of Americans are just plain stoopid and it burns. Damn, since bush stole 2000 I think I've entered the Twilight Zone.

[Enthusiast]

55. Yup, since the

SCOTUS decision on Gore v Bush this country has went right down the tubes. Of course there were abuses before but that was an off the cliff moment that we might never recover from.

[Raine1967]

19. Most are white -- for now.

and that is why so many of these people are so damn scared.

The times ARE changing --and white folks face the reality that they are no longer going to be a majority in this country. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/15/population.race


It will be interesting to see the results of the 2010 census. I suspect that year might be moved up.

So, IMO -- they have a choice -- they can keep hatin' or they can accept the fact that America was NEVER guaranteed to always be a white eurocentric nation. this is a natural progression here. I look forward to the day when the color of a person's skin or the accent they have will not determine how *American* they are.

[flamingdem]

49. +1 nt

[golfguru]

40. I am a brown skinned immigrant

I arrived on student visa and after graduation, obtained the
coveted "Green card or permanent visa" after many years of waiting.
My employer had to renew my application every 6 months!

I do not agree any one should get a free pass when I certainly had
to work my butt off for it.

Send all illegal immigrants back to where they came from and let them
work through the legal immigration system. USA allows millions of legal
immigrants every year and that is how it should be. We can't selectively
decide which laws to obey. That is pathway to anarchy.

[Go2Peace]

50. Obviously you "hate brown people"

um, wait.... :sarcasm:

[EFerrari]

51. What does that have to do with this law?

This law codifies racial profiling, no matter what your status is -- unless you pin your papers to your lapel.

[madmax]

56. I do not blame the illegals

JAIL - not just a fine to those who employ them at slave wages.

I live in a new development in NC. Other than the white hard hats who are American, the workers are all Mexican's. I've spoken to some of them really nice men. Respectful and HARD WORKERS. Start early, work late. I sometimes see them working a few hours on Sunday.

Stop the SOURCE.

The builder is K. Hovnanian based in Red Bank, NJ with projects all over the country. Jail the K. HOV brothers who own the company. http://www.khov.com/?ref=Google_Corporate&gclid=CMPZ2uflrqECFQ4OswodlhQ__A

I'm first generation born in the USA my entire family were imigrants and did the legal way, also.

Hope I didn't come off snarky, I don't mean to. :hug:

[howaboutme]

61. I agree

Fine them and send the principles to prison.

I fail to understand how Americans can support a philosophy that enriches business people while it harms others and eliminates jobs and cuts wages for your brothers, sisters and neighbors and those here legally regardless of the skin colors involved. This brown stuff is pure deflection from the real issue which is about businesses profiting from illegal labor at the expense of average Americans.

If you believe illegal immigration and amnesty is fine, then let's open the floods gates from every country in the world and not just those south of the border, and see how an unending supply of cheap labor and resulting over population affects our environment, your life and economic situation.

[jenmito]

2. That's because every Repub. has LIED about it-saying people can't be stopped/asked for their

papers unless they are in the midst of breaking the law (like robbing a house or running a light).

[jefferson_dem]

6. If/when this piece of shit law is implemented and enforced we will see a test case....

before the court. Then, we'll know the truth.

[jenmito]

12. Exactly. And if the law IS the way the Repubs. describe, there'd be no problem...

but I doubt the likes of Karl Rove and Marco Rubio would think the law is unconstitutional if there's no change from the law already on the books.

[impik]

4. Disgrace. What a terrible state this country is in. The damage created

by Bush might be irreversible.

[BlooInBloo]

10. ahahahhhaahaa!!!

Um, this isn't *new*. Certain people in America have ALWAYS been this way.

This one isn't bush's fault.

[Ter]

54. Bush opposes the AZ law

n/t.

[booksenkatz]

5. Which is precisely why civil rights should never be put up for a vote. NT

[azmouse]

8. Arizonans didn't vote for this law.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

9. They voted for the people that voted for this law.

No sympathy for the devil.

[azmouse]

14. Unbelievable.

So should we have hated ALL Americans for the duration of boosh's pResidency, whether or not someone voted for him?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

16. The majority of Americans didn't vote for Bush.

The majority of Americans don't continue to support Bush.

:nopity:

[azmouse]

21. ya know...

I hope something like this law never happens in your area. You would have to hate yourself.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

23. It won't.

We're not as fucked up.

[azmouse]

25. So by your own statement you hate Mexicans and Native Americans then.

Ya know, the very people this law was aimed at.
They live in AZ too... but go ahead and tar and feather the very people who you 'claim' to want to defend and protect.
Sounds kinda hypocritical to me.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

28. Mexicans and Native Americans did not vote for the people who voted for this legislation.

Moreover, they are not the people who just said they wanted it to spread to other states.

[azmouse]

30. You sure about that?

If they voted for Bush they almost certainly voted for other Republicans here.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

33. Those that did, then fuck them too.

[Politicalboi]

47. The Governor was Janet Napalitano (D) If spelled correctly

Before Obama took her into his cabinet. This article here says they're doing it for the votes too.

http://www.jabberwonk.com/flinker.cfm?cliid=sevb5

[harkadog]

36. The majority of Americans haven't voted for any recent President

Which means?

[kelly1mm]

57. To be mathematically correct, the majority of Americans didn't vote for Obama either. nt

[booksenkatz]

15. Right, but my larger point is that majority opinion...

should never come into play when it comes to civil rights, because the results will always look like this poll. I'm thinking of the larger picture. I don't care if 99% of the poll respondents think that civil rights of "the other" should be crapped on. It simply DOESN'T MATTER. I'm thankful we don't vote on slavery, and am saddened that we *do* vote on the rights of GLBT individuals. Civil rights are for everyone, regardless of what the majority wants.

[azmouse]

17. I couldn't agree more.

But we don't hate all Americans for the boosh pResidency. Why should people hate all Arizonans for what a few politicians did?
I didn't vote for any of them and I never would yet I'm to be tarred and feathered for their mistakes. I'm out here battling to keep this law from taking effect.

[booksenkatz]

20. No worries here, azmouse

I know there are plenty of good Arizonans fighting this... keep it up! You have many, many good people behind you who want to help.:hi:

For what it's worth, I grew up in Texas and I completely understand what it's like to be led by, and blamed for, Cro-Mags for whom you did not vote!

[BlooInBloo]

7. Need a demographic breakdown.

[Downtown Hound]

11. Can't say I'm surprised

Disgusted, disappointed, sickened, but surprised? No.

[slackmaster]

13. I wonder how many of the respondents have actually read it

http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070h.htm

[greencharlie]

18. if Gallup has it at 51%, Rasmussen must be 60% lol...

[political_Dem]

22. I'm not surprised.

Something about fascism wrapped in a flag and delivered with a cross reminds me that certain Americans are willing to take anything handed to them without questioning the morality of the law.

During one time in America, we had juries which openly let lynchers go free in the Jim Crow South. And some of the lynchers are still alive and kicking even after the get out jail free card has been handed to them half a century before.

The support of this law is no different.

[Thrill]

24. Same country that voted for Bush TWICE

.

[GoCubsGo]

27. Yep.

Same country that was A-okay with the Patriot Act being enacted, and who has no problem with warrantless wire-tapping. After all, they "have nothing to hide." Whip up the fear, and they'll buy into pretty much anything.

[EFerrari]

52. Why do people say that? Bush was selected by the Supreme Court in 2000

and he stole Ohio in 2004. He was never transparently elected president once.

[high density]

26. I doubt people even know what they're talking about

If you went through the individual parts of this bill in plain terms, I suspect the results would be different. (Much like they were on healthcare reform.)

[Bleacher Creature]

46. +1

[zulchzulu]

29. And you wonder how the Nazis got in power... n/t

[workinclasszero]

31. The fascist takeover of America is well underway.

The reich wing spew their lies 27/7 on hate radio and fox "news". What did we expect? The Arizona apartheid law is just the beginning.

Of the end.......

[Jennicut]

32. Is anyone surprised? Since immigrants first came over to this country (not counting the original

waves of the English that first came) there has been hatred and discrimination. My Italian great grandparents were called Wops. When the Irish got off the boats during the potato famine, they were hated. America is a nation of immigrants but wants to not believe it. Many did come illegally, but many don't want to admit it. Did my great grandparents come legally? In my family, it is not really known. But Americans want to hold onto their piece of the pie and anyone who comes along and threatens the power structure has always taken the low end of the totem poll. Hispanics are the newest immigrants, hence they take the low end.

[otohara]

34. Not A Surprise

our local paper has an online poll and right now it's 77% yes.

I swear I don't know why the world still likes this country. They don't know the hate that's going on right now with our new POTUS and brown folks from South of our borders.

[harkadog]

37. You must not have ever traveled anywhere in the "world"

Most people in most if not all countries hate or at least despise people of other colors.

[Xipe Totec]

38. Have you?

You're pretty well traveled if you can judge "most people in most if not all countries"

:eyes:

Did you mean it, or was it just knee jerk patriotism?

[harkadog]

39. I have been to 42 countries

I have not been to the continents of Antarctica or Australia. I have always found "ordinary" people in any country to be full of hatred or at least contempt for their neighbors because of ethnicity or color.

[boppers]

43. Ethnicity/"Nation" often more so than color.

Europe has lots of white people hating on neighboring white people, Africa has lots of black people hating on neighboring black people.

The Finns, for example, hate the Russians, and black people.

[otohara]

42. You Think?

but what does that have to do with how people perceive us? A recent BBC World Service poll has US on the rise since the election of President Obama.

Yes, I'm just a 1/2 Mexican American bumpkin who has only traveled to 5 other countries, married a guy from Japan, don't know nuthing about other cultures.

[harkadog]

44. You know yourself better than anyone.

In your post you said you didn't know how anyone could still like the U.S. because of the hate. As if people in other countries are pure from that. I was merely pointing out there is just as much hate in those countries including Mexico and Japan as here in the U.S.

[EFerrari]

53. Miguel d'Escoto, former head of the UN General Assemblly

said recently that world opinion of the UN is at an all time low, second only to the world opinion of the US.

[Bluenorthwest]

35. Voting on other people's rights is the new American way

In case you have not noticed, other people's civil rights are constantly being voted on in this country.

[totodeinhere]

41. I am proud that the poll shows Democrats opposing the bill.

And of course it comes as no surprise that the other side is for it.

[branders seine]

45. the fascists have successfully channeled much of the generalized fear and angst

in the "mainstream" American public into anti-immigrant sentiment. It makes less than zero sense, but most Americans are incapable of even rudimentary logical thought.

Give white Americans the chance to make themselves feel better by beating the hell out of some darker-skinned people, and they will jump at the chance every time.

Slavery, native-American genocide; Mexican-American War; Spanish-American War; numerous campaigns in Central and South America and the Caribbean; Japan; Korea; Viet Nam; Iraq; Afghanistan; Iraq again...

[ProSense]

48. "* Breaking: Gallup finds a small plurality favors the Arizona law when it isn’t described to them."

says Greg Sargent

[kelly1mm]

58. Same percentage as the President's approval rating last week.

some things don't quite make sense.

[Cha]

59. Critical details..We'll see who wins this one.

"Regardless of their level of self-reported familiarity with the Arizona law, Americans are generally more supportive of than opposed to it. Note that the poll did not attempt to measure actual knowledge about the law or describe the various provisions of the law to respondents."

[howaboutme]

60. So put a poll on Democratic Underground

Make the questions objective and fair to all sides. You might be surprised at the outcome on amnesty or the Arizona law. There are many Americans who are now out of work and competing for jobs with those here illegally.