Grayson is done.

[jefferson_dem]

He's down 57 / 37, with 30% in. http://elections.nytimes.com/2010/results/florida

It was fun while it lasted...

[polichick]

1. Wow, Florida is FloriDUH once again. Love my home state but...

SHIT!

[AngryAmish]

65. You have to admit that Floridians, as a whole, are complete cretins

Why do you think fark has a florida tag?

[Jennicut]

2. And not surprising.

I think he hurt himself a bit, to be honest. But he will be missed. :(

[Xipe Totec]

7. For two years, maybe.

He can come back in 2012 with a HUGE I told you so.

[SunsetDreams]

14. Huge I told you so regarding what?

[Xipe Totec]

18. Regarding the fuckwad that's going to replace him nt

[SunsetDreams]

42. couldn't agree more, thank you.

[avaistheone1]

22. Yes and it will be

HUGE

Grayson is no pussy cat.

[Xipe Totec]

26. If he plays his cards right, he can come back on Obama's coattails nt

[avaistheone1]

27. I don't think he has to ride in on anyone's coat tails.

Obama is finding it challenging enough to carry himself.

[Xipe Totec]

29. Oh yea?

That does not sound very supportive, buddy.

Generally, Presidential elections have a lot of pull.

No matter what happens today, we'll have both houses back after the 2012 election.

[avaistheone1]

32. Check

the polls. And don't buddy me.

No need to be patronizing.

[Xipe Totec]

34. I was going to say...

I checked the polls. Didn't do so well on his own.

[defendandprotect]

47. That would be great -- !!!

[BrklynLiberal]

3. I think I am going to be very sick.....

[vaberella]

4. Yea...that stupid advert of his. Ugh. n/t

[dmr]

39. and all that outside money

:grr:

[FBaggins]

56. The ad didn't lose it for him

The ad proved that he knew he was way down at the time.

Not that it helped of course.

[Ian David]

5. At least now he can do The Stephanie Miller Show again. n/t

[Thrill]

6. Democrats who fight back

Never last. The media makes sure of that

[Kaleva]

11. Being in a Repub leaning district doesn't help either.

[golfguru]

19. It was his out of context Ad is what did him in ..

Nothing wrong with negative Ads if they are accurate.
Grayson edited his opponent's speech to sound exactly opposite
of what the opponent was saying. That is outright fraud and once exposed it did Grayson in. Too bad because Grayson could have won without committing any obvious fraud.

[avaistheone1]

36. Do you have a link?

I never saw the ad.

Do really think it was fraud? Usually ads where the editing is so obvious are not fraud- maybe poor judgment but not fraud.

[procopia]

49. The ad was edited but not misleading

Because the ad portrayed Webster accurately.

[golfguru]

52. From what little I saw in news

it was said that Alan's opponent's message was to NOT force
your spouse. Alan's Ad said exactly opposite by editing out the
"NOT" part. In my book that is dis-honest, no matter
who does it.

It looks like voters in Florida also thought the same.

[procopia]

54. Webster was saying men should not PRAY for wifely submission

in the tape. But he believes women can pray for it, and said so.

[golfguru]

61. All I am saying is that the news clips depicting Grayson

as twisting his opponent's words 180 degrees had to
have an effect on his credibility. Why did Grayson do it?
He was the incumbent and could have done well without
such a controversial Ad. JMHO.

What other reason do you think caused his defeat?

[procopia]

64. I don't think Grayson saw it as a controversial ad

I think he saw it as a truth that voters should be aware of. Grayson gave people too much credit for being able to understand how Reconstructionism is a threat to our democracy.

[golfguru]

66. OK let us leave it at that /

[golfguru]

51. Editing is just fine

if you omit certain portions. But you can never turn the
meaning 180 degrees around. That is as close to fraud as
you can get IMHO.

For example my local candidate for house, Danny Heck says
in his Ad that his opponent exported jobs. That conclusion
can be drawn indirectly from Herrera's past votes. So, even
if it is extrapolation it is perfectly legit.

[procopia]

46. Grayson's ad WAS accurate

Webster DOES believe wives are supposed to be submissive. In the original tape, Webster was saying "That's in the Bible" (that wives should be submissive) and "wives can pray for that." He was just instructing men not to pray for it. Wifely submission is a central tenet of Bill Gothard's teaching and Webster definitely believes it, and everything Gothard says. Webster also tried to make divorce illegal for covenant marriages, even in the case of abuse. He also opposes abortion even for rape or incest.

Webster is a Reconstructionist nutcase and a warmonger advocating war to create several democracies in the Middle East "to protect us." Florida screwed us over again.

[golfguru]

55. Somehow all the news clips I saw about this Ad were

depicting it as just opposite. CNN's Anderson Cooper made that point clear in his clip.

[procopia]

57. Ad portrays Webster as a believer of wifely submission, and he is.

Therefore, the ad was not misleading.

[golfguru]

60. Webster was easily beatable

The charge of False Ad really hurt Grayson IMO.
Without that Ad he would have done much better.

[procopia]

63. Without that ad, Republicans would have found something else to distort.

IMHO.

[defendandprotect]

50. It's really Dems like Grayson that we need -- !!

[BeyondGeography]

8. An impressive guy, even if he ran a bad race

Sure we haven't heard the last of him.

[avaistheone1]

41. For sure.

Than man is too young, too strong, too smart and has great ideas.

One race will not do him in - unless that is what Grayson chooses.

[GreenPartyVoter]

9. Noooooo!!!!

[KaryninMiami]

10. How very sad- my heart hurts. I love Alan Grayson as did many of us. NT

[givemebackmycountry]

12. Shit, now I need a new Sig line.

Daniel Fucking teabagger asshole Webster (R - Fundy asswipe) is now my new rep and that REALLY sucks.

[whyverne]

13. So what happens to the "Dems ain't tough enough" line now?

Cenk? Bartcop?

[Tesha]

20. Dems acting collectively would be much stronger than 1 or 2 individuals acting individually. (NT)

[avaistheone1]

28. There was a HUGE infusion of corporate republican cash that was

impossible for him to fight in his race.

[Luciferous]

15. That sucks!

[Bombtrack]

16. 2012 baby, 2012

We have someone to be excited about getting back in power. Grayson will NOT fade away.

[Luciferous]

21. +1

[Drunken Irishman]

23. I hope he doesn't fade...but he's going to have to come back playing smart...

[avaistheone1]

30. He is damn smart.

Grayson is not a crook, and could not compete against the corporate Republican cash that flowed to his competitor.

[Drunken Irishman]

31. I think he is smart...

But I don't think he ran a smart campaign.

[avaistheone1]

33. How so?

[Drunken Irishman]

35. I think the ad he ran comparing the Republican to the Taliban and taking quotes out of context...

Hurt him. Even if true, it was a nasty ad. It didn't play well at all. I think it cemented him in the eyes of many as a loon and though that isn't right, it's something EVERY Democrat has to be aware of when they're running. The media is quick to paint Democrats as something and if they feed into that stereotype, it often costs people votes.

It's not right, but it is what it is. You know?

[avaistheone1]

38. Points well taken.

Do you have a link to the ad/s in question?

[Drunken Irishman]

17. Totally expected him to lose...

You knew he knew he was in trouble when he released that ad a month or so ago. Candidates who are up in the polls never go that aggressive.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

24. Sad!

[Political_Junkie]

25. Ugh.

That sucks. He'll run again. He has to.

[barbtries]

37. man that sucks

:(
maybe he should move to a state where he'll be appreciated.

[martymar64]

40. shit

He was one of the good ones.

I'm crossing Orlando off my cities to visit list, for the next two years or at least until they come to there senses.

[jefferson_dem]

43. Alan blames the weather.

:eyes:

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/november/168654/Grayson-concedes-in-District-8-race

[Drunken Irishman]

44. Uh...really? C'mon, Grayson!

[Uzybone]

45. he was wiped out....he isn't for that District.

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[Bryn]

53. Noooooooooooooo

I may live in Arkansas, but my hometown is Florida and used to live in Orlando. I am one of his huge fans.

Well, I won't give up on him!

And Rick Scott is winning....ooooohhhhhh nnnnooooo...what's wrong with people in Florida now??

[jillan]

58. I feel sick.

[zulchzulu]

59. He can run in two years... and hopefully will n/t

[xxqqqzme]

62. Florida voted to

ELIMINATE public financing of campaigns? WTF!