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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 07:47 PM
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Stop the Nonsense
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2011/1/14/165135/500

Stop the Nonsense

by BooMan
Fri Jan 14th, 2011 at 04:51:35 PM EST


Probably the biggest problem facing the country right now is the nature of the Republican Party. More than anything, the problem is their dishonesty. Dishonesty is associated with politicians of all stripes and parties, but people really need to start looking more closely at the difference between the kinds of lies that Democrats tend to tell and the lies you hear from Republicans.

It's obvious that the Republicans made big gains in the recent midterm elections by campaigning on reducing the size of the federal government and the federal deficit. So, they have at least some kind of mandate to impose cuts on spending on the president. A common theme during the campaign was that the Republicans would reduce $100 billion from next year's budget. A lot of candidates used that number and it was included in their Pledge to America manifesto. However, once they won the elections and took over the House they quickly retreated to a less ridiculous number.

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Sen. Shelby (R-AL) is the Ranking Member on the Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs. He says we can cut the budget by 30%, or by about a trillion dollars. When Think Progress learned that he had also said we could cut the budget by 10%, they called his office to find out which number he wanted to stick with. His spokesmen feigned ignorance of either number and said that Shelby merely wanted to revert back to 2008 numbers.

All I'm saying here is that we really shouldn't have to tolerate a party going around talking about cutting the budget by 10, 20, 50 times what is realistically possible. They aren't even serious about the numbers. They're just saying whatever bullshit they think people want to hear, or that will win them some attention.

We could make this easier by just changing the rules. We propose something and then they lie about what we proposed and refuse to support it. That is the basic structure of our government right now, and everything else is just extraneous window dressing and noise.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 08:08 PM
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1. That's been their problem for a very long time, maybe forever.
They don't have any good ideas, so they propose bullshit and then we have to fight to get things going in a better way.

WE have the ideas. They have ZERO.

It's a shame, and this makes everything good take a lot longer.

Shame on 'em.

Recommended.

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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 08:12 PM
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2. "WE have the ideas. They have ZERO"
No, they have lots of ideas.

And they're "good" ideas if your notion of good is theocratic, plutocratic dictatorship.

They aren't doing a good thing poorly, they're doing a terrible thing very, very well.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 08:13 PM
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3. OK...
I did mean GOOD ideas, lol!

Their ideas suck to normal intelligent people...

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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 08:18 PM
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4. I wasn't trying to pick nits.
Too many -- maybe not you -- seem to think that the trouble with the other side is that they just can't get their act together.

I think we need to keep reminding ourselves that their goal is the opposite of ours. We cannot reason with them. We cannot bring them into the fold. We cannot show them the error of their ways.

They are the enemy.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 08:24 PM
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5. I know you weren't.
And I agree that they've got their act together, all right. In all the most terrible ways possible.

We cannot dissuade them. We can only hope that those whose minds are not yet made up can be helped to see what is true.

I hate to use the word enemy. But I think you're right; they are that.

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