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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 01:00 AM
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Jon Stewart Makes A Case For Obama’s Indefinite Detention Without Trial - VIDEO

Jon Stewart Makes A Case For Obama’s Indefinite Detention Without Trial

Wednesday, Daily Show host Jon Stewart took a look at the passage of a bill that would allow the government to detain certain American prisoners indefinitely, without a trial.

VIDEO here: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jon-stewart-makes-a-case-for-obamas-indefinite-detention-without-trial/



p.s. As a side note:
Don't forget that the Senate passed the Feinstein amendment which amended that section's language 'before' the Senate passed the DoDA Act, also the bill must go to The House and the language may be changed further over there before it is sent to The President's desk.


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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 01:23 AM
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1. Is this one of those theological controversies where people argue things like:
Edited on Thu Dec-08-11 01:23 AM by kenny blankenship
Is the President, as Commander in Chief in the War On Terror, so all-powerful that he could indefinitely detain himself, the President as a mere elected "authority" and only a civilian?

Guess I'll have to go watch the clip.
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libmom74 Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 04:12 AM
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2. Coming soon
the media and politicians will start to call the OWS movement a terrorist organization and call for the indefinite detention of protesters.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 07:51 AM
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3. Oh, when will they ever learn?
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LiberalLovinLug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 01:48 PM
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4. This is very scary
Basically rewriting the 4th amendment, quietly with no debate.
What is scary is that only 7 senators voted against it.

I watched this segment on the Daily Show last night in horror. Jon was particularly passionate about this story. You could tell he was forcing the funny because this story is far from funny.

Especially when he said that Obama threatened to veto the bill, not because of the unprecedented executive powers to imprison any American for any reason indefinitely without charge, but because it didn't have ENOUGH executive powers for him.

Its official: The terrorists have won!
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 02:11 PM
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5. This is no joke. This is corporate fascism we are seeing now.
Until now, we have had the illusion of being free, but OWS is challenging the very foundations of their global power system. They are challenging the financial system, the elections system, the empire...everything.

These oligarchs will not cede power willingly. When the mask falls, they are forced to a deadly serious response.

This is about nothing less than our freedom and the future of all of us.
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 02:24 PM
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6. This is truly terrifying.
I agree with Rand Paul.

Help!!!!
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eomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 05:22 PM
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7. The Feinstein amendment did not pass as far as I can determine.
Edited on Thu Dec-08-11 05:25 PM by eomer
I've seen it said on DU a couple of times that the Feinstein amendment passed. As far as I can see that's not correct - the Feinstein amendment did not pass.

Here is a blog entry on 12/1 saying it failed:

--snip--

Senator Feinstein’s amendment, which would have limited applicability of the NDAA’s detention provisions to terrorism suspects captured abroad, was rejected in a 45-55 vote this afternoon. There was a very lengthy debate on the adoption of this amendment yesterday afternoon (read the transcript here) and today.

--snip--

http://www.lawfareblog.com/2011/12/feinstein-amendment-rejected-45-55/


And here is the list of amendments for the Senate bill, showing that Senate Amendment 1126 (which I believe is the one we're referring to) failed:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/L?d112:./temp/~bdaSBPU:1<1-381>(Amendments_For_S.1867)&./temp/~bd8NDc">Amendments

So can you point me to something saying that it passed? I would like to know either way whether it passed or it didn't.


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