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titaniumsalute Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 07:46 PM
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Let's cut the fucking shit
I keep seeing these media headlines "Osama Bin Laden not Armed While Shot..."

Please find me people who give a shit? The media is trying to find more "stories" out of this.

Here's the story. The CIA found out where Osama lived. The US Armed Services and President were notified. The President gave approval for the US Armed Services (Navy Seal Team 6) the authority to invade the compound and kill target. They did that mission. OBL and some other assholes are dead. We gathered much computer and other info. End of story.

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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 07:46 PM
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1. Cut to the chase....
well done... K and R
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 07:46 PM
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2. Yep. Game. Set. Match.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 07:48 PM
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3. the only controversy is what the media gins up
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 07:50 PM
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4. Why would people care about the details of the story of the decade?
Edited on Thu May-05-11 08:04 PM by EFerrari
Why can't they be like you?

Damn other people.
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Pigheaded Donating Member (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 07:58 PM
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9. This

Pigheaded
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 03:41 PM
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28. "Hell is other people"
Do people really care about the details, or does the media care to milk this story, espcially if they can make Obama look bad.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 04:53 PM
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29. Those are not mutually exclusive propositions.
We already know the right wing presstitutes will sell out their own mothers to make Obama look bad.

But that doesn't mean that Americans aren't interested in the biggest story we'll see for a long time.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 07:52 PM
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5. IMHO that should have taken place 9/12/01 or even better right after the USS Cole bombing.
There should never have been war in Afghanistan
or Iraq.
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 07:53 PM
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6. I couldn't care less if bin Laden was in bed snoring
The scumbag deserved to be DEAD.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 07:55 PM
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7. yup... that is all. nt
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 07:57 PM
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8. The 1% would be upset
if their employees in the media didn't attempt to diminish the importance of this event. Because a Democratic president was behind it.

So they have to grasp at any straw to find some controversy that will tarnish Obama's glory.

I've talked to probably a hundred people since Sunday and as far as I know not one of them gives a rats ass whether bin Laden was armed or not.

You know if a republican was behind this they would already be naming airports after him and sending the jackhammers to Mt Rushmore.

The good news is that the majority of Americans doesn't give a shit anymore what the media say.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 07:59 PM
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10. the right-wing seems to be trumpeting this
and somehow blaming Osama being shot while unarmed on Obama. Some should remind these dolts that it's the sailors on the ground who made the call whether to shoot Osama while unarmed or wait until he picked up a gun and killed a few sailors. So they should be blaming the SEALs, not Obama. Doltheads.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 08:15 PM
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17. it seems to be a big deal to several DUers as well
I'm not one of them, but claiming the "unarmed" OBL meme is a RW meme ignores that its got a number of adherents on the other side of the spectrum
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 03:38 PM
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26. I think it's worth pointing out because it appears to be the fact.
Edited on Fri May-06-11 03:40 PM by Marr
If the facts differ from the government's official story, which was dutifully trumpeted from every tower as usual, I think it's worth correcting the record.

If Republicans want to defend Osama bin Laden because of it, it's their funeral. After insisting for years that 'real men' don't need trials and laws to deal with terrorists, it'd be a pretty stupid move.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 03:36 PM
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25. Probably the same doltheads who were saying the SEALS should
get the credit, not Obama.

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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 08:00 PM
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11. My guess is very few of the civilians in the World Trade Center were armed.
Not that that has anything to do with it.
:eyes:
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 08:05 PM
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12. Were Uday and Qusay armed when we fired a missile into their compound?
I don't recall the media getting their panties into a bunch over that one.

And although Uday and Qusay were undoubtedly, assholes, they weren't responsible for the deaths of 3000 Americans.

They were just unfortunate to be killed while a republican occupied the WH.
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 08:06 PM
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13. Well said. Recommended.
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 08:06 PM
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14. So this is what being pro-life means for Re-Pubic-Rats?
Pro Osama's life? I didn't realize what flower children Re-Pubic-Rats were!

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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 08:07 PM
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15. I like it. But politicians need wiggle room......
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 08:13 PM
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16. The pure and simple truth
I salute you for expressing it so very clearly.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 08:19 PM
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18. And We Don't Have to Suffer Through
the asshole media covering a trial.

They are not responsible enough to do anything serious or important.

This is proof.
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moparlunatic Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 08:23 PM
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19. We should do the same
with KSM.
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 08:34 PM
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20. Stories like this one are not always allowed the dignity of an ending.
Edited on Thu May-05-11 08:35 PM by leeroysphitz
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:28 PM
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21. I'm anti-death penalty and I'm still not upset about OBL.
The guy declared war on our entire country and was basically like, "come get me if you can."

We did.

End of story.

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titaniumsalute Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 03:15 PM
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22. I agree with you
Never been a fan of the death penalty. But this is an extreme case that needed an extreme solution.
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 03:26 PM
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23. Take a lesson media, that's how you tell a story, Originally from the Golden Girls episode where
Blanche refuses to let Rose re-tell a lengthy story to Dorothy about winning tickets to a Frank Sinatra concert. Instead, Blanche tells the story, short and sweet to Dorothy, when she is done, Dorothy turns to Rose and says, Dorothy: Take a lesson Rose. That's how you tell a story! ... Just thought it related here.
Lou
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 03:32 PM
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24. You're not saying that President Obama approved the cold-blooded
extra-judicial execution of OBL are you?

Once you embrace the bin Laden Exception, how does it stay confined to him?

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/05/06/bin_laden
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 03:39 PM
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27. Oh, the Constitution!
Jeez, you libruls like throwing that in people's faces every chance you get, don't you? Due process this, treaty obligations that, crimes against humanity the other! Everyone already agrees that bin Laden was behind the 9/11 attacks, and that's the end of it! As someone very wise once said a long time ago, what further need have we of witnesses? Besides, following laws and adhering to the principles that we claim set us apart is just so messy and time-consuming. We're Americans, and if the gratification isn't instant, it's probably not worth having.

Besides, this is the only time we'll ever do something like this. Until the next time. And the only time we've ever done something like this. Since the last time. So knock it off, Captain Buzzkill, and get with the program. Unless you want to be the next example of American exceptionalism. Which we won't ever do again, but if we did, you know . . .
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 05:05 PM
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33. ^^^ This. Game. Set. Match.
You can bet your ass that if this had been done under bush, 99% of the people here would be screaming bloody murder. And rightly so. I'm glad that OBL is no longer a threat. I'm glad that Obama was the one to get him. I'm not glad that an attempt wasn't made to bring him in alive. I've been very much sickened by the reaction I'm seeing here at DU.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 05:06 PM
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35. +1
PB
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 09:04 PM
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36. Please know that you are not alone in your thoughts and feelings. I've
read and admired your eloquent posts throughout this affair.

FWIW, my wife has been seeing similar phenomona on Facebook.

While driving today, I found myself thinking that I would vote for Obama in 2012 only if I could solemnly affirm to myself and others that he was less evil than his challenger. That says something right there about how far we have come since the heady days of November 2008, doesn't it?
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titaniumsalute Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 10:44 AM
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37. I disagree
What do you do with him when captured? Having our soldiers risk their lives to keep him alive is much worse than shooting him on the spot. Where do you contain him? You know it will get leaked and that place ia an immediate target.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 07:18 PM
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38. We spend more on our military than the rest of the world combined.
I find it very hard to believe that we couldn't safely contain ANY target, no matter how big that target may be.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 04:55 PM
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30. Correct, everything else is "theater criticism".
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 04:56 PM
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31. I agree
although I feel he was probably too much of coward to do this, they don't know (nor do we) if OBL was rigged to blow the whole place up. Gun or not.
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True Earthling Donating Member (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 04:59 PM
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32. The only way they would NOT shoot him is if he were naked...
The order was... if clothed assume he is wearing a suicide vest and take him out.

They did the right thing.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 05:05 PM
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34. Recommended!
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 07:20 PM
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39. Now if only the media outlets would phrase it like that, there would be far less to talk about. nt
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