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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 12:14 PM
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(Jim Jones) Jonestown memorial dedication allowed to proceed
Dedication of a Jonestown memorial, which includes the name of Jim Jones among the victims, can proceed Sunday despite a last-ditch effort from a rival survivors' group to stop it, a judge ruled Thursday.

The Jonestown Memorial Fund - led in part by Jim Jones Jr. - can go forward with plans for a private ceremony at Evergreen Cemetery in Oakland to unveil its monument, Alameda County Superior Court Judge Robert McGuiness ruled.

About 200 people are expected to attend the ceremony, including the Guyana ambassador, paying tribute to the 918 mostly Bay Area residents who died at the mass suicide in Guyana on Nov. 18, 1978.

"I don't know if anybody has won," said Jim Jones Jr., the son of the Peoples Temple leader, who argued for a memorial that included the name of his father. "All of us are experiencing and remembering the losses."

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/05/26/BATB1JLIOE.DTL
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 12:18 PM
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1. The son wants to cling to the hope that his father will not go down in history as a bad man.
It's sad. I feel sorry for the son who was left with the burden of carrying that name and legacy but I think it is distasteful to include his father's name on a memorial to those who died.
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 12:21 PM
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2. HIs father was both evil and a coward
He could not even kill himself in the end, he had someone else shot him.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 01:24 PM
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3. Wow... Like including Harris and Klebold on a Columbine memorial
Edited on Fri May-27-11 01:33 PM by hlthe2b
I would not like it at all--probably fight vigorously against it if I were one of the Jonestown survivors. But, in the end, I feel for the son, who has obviously chosen not to make a decisive break with his father and legacy, to the point of retaining his name. I think he would have had a better time of it, if he had disowned the father, but perhaps he remembers him for other reasons....

On edit, I just read the full article. This woman Jaynona Norwood, who fought the inclusion of Jim Jones on the mounument--lost 27 family members that day! I certainly think HER wishes ought to have counted. My heavens!
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 03:28 PM
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4. I wonder what Congresswoman Speier thinks about it.
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 04:37 PM
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12. My city councilman could not care less about the memorial
At least one survivor of The Peoples Temple massacre in Jonestown has no problem with plans to erect a monument in Oakland's Evergreen Cemetery.

In fact, Dixon City Councilman Thom Bogue says he could not care less.

Bogue, a survivor of Jonestown, said he agrees with a judge's decision Thursday to allow construction of the monument to move forward.

"The way I look at it is, who's paying for it?" he said. "If you are paying for it, you have a say. If not, then you don't."

Bogue was 14 years old in 1975 when he was sent by family to Jonestown, Guyana.

"I attempted to escape on several occasions and was severely punished for my efforts," he wrote on his campaign website during a successful run for Dixon City Council last year. "Then, on Nov. 18, 1978, my family and I, with the assistance of the late Congressman Leo Ryan and now Congresswoman Jackie Speier, were able to make our escape. I will be forever grateful to them. In the process, my sister and I were shot and survived."

In fact, he and his sister spent three days hiding in the rain forest near the airstrip as more than 900 residents of the commune committed suicide by order of leader Jim Jones, who died himself that day from a gunshot wound.

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http://www.thereporter.com/news/ci_18153377
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 09:39 PM
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15. Interesting. Had no idea that another Jonestown survivor was in politics.
What a weird way to spend his teen years.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 03:43 PM
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5. Mr. Jones Jr., your Father was a Psychopath and a COWARD
and there is nothing you can do to change that fact.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 03:45 PM
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6. to memorialize the murdered with their murderer is an indignity
and remember, people drank the poison at gunpoint.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 04:08 PM
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10. AND forced the poison down their BABIES' throats at gunpoint as well.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 03:47 PM
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7. Go there in the middle of the night and file it off with a high-powered tool. -nt
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 03:49 PM
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8. For those who plan on attending the Opening Ceremony:
Do Not Drink The Koolaid !!!!!!
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 04:07 PM
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9. What the hell?
Edited on Fri May-27-11 04:07 PM by YellowRubberDuckie
That bastard orchestrated the deaths of HUNDREDS of people, and he's listed among the VICTIMS? Who the hell thought this was a good idea?! Oh, this infuriates me. He's one of the worst MASS MURDERERS in history!
Duckie
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 04:09 PM
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11. Are they serving Kool-Aid at the reception afterwards?
:evilgrin:
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 04:57 PM
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14. It was Flavor-Aid, to be a pedantic prick
Edited on Fri May-27-11 04:59 PM by REP
You just know Kool-Aid wishes more people remembered that!

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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 04:55 PM
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13. Ballad of Jim Jones
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