Reuters: Fox shoots man

[kpete]

Fox shoots man
Reuters

A wild fox cub lies outside its burrow near the village of Khatenchitsy north of Minsk Reuters – A wild fox cub lies outside its burrow near the village of Khatenchitsy, some 37 miles north of Minsk, …
– Thu Jan 13, 2:50 pm ET

MOSCOW (Reuters) – A wounded fox shot its would be killer in Belarus by pulling the trigger on the hunter's gun as the pair scuffled after the man tried to finish the animal off with the butt of the rifle, media said Thursday.

The unnamed hunter, who had approached the fox after wounding it from a distance, was in hospital with a leg wound, while the fox made its escape, media said, citing prosecutors from the Grodno region.

"The animal fiercely resisted and in the struggle accidentally pulled the trigger with its paw," one prosecutor was quoted as saying.

Fox-hunting is popular in the picturesque farming region of northwestern Belarus which borders Poland.

the rest:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_belarus_fox;_ylt=Anaio1QYos_5VVn.0OJI1nJzfNdF

[Kennah]

1. Did anyone else ...

... click the link hoping to see an attractive woman?

[Matariki]

3. I thought it was going to be about hateful political rhetoric.

[valerief]

2. What a fabulous subject line. Fox shoots man. Ha!

:rofl:

Figuratively, Fox does that 24/7.

[slackmaster]

4. In Belarus, fox hunts YOU

:rofl:

[Enrique]

39. nice!

[hlthe2b]

5. I have to admit being more concerned about the fate of the fox..

Than this asshole hunter and his leg wound... Hard to argue it wasn't at least partially self-inflicted.

[The Doctor.]

9. Whether or not the hunter is an 'asshole' is difficult to know from this article.

I have to give props to the Fox though... just hope it's not suffering one way or the other.

[hlthe2b]

13. Wounds the animal and then tried to beat it to death with the butt

of the gun. Sounds like an asshole to me.

[The Doctor.]

24. Sounds like someone who can't afford much ammo.

You can chose to see what you want to, regardless of realities you do not live in.

[hlthe2b]

26. Are you next going to claim...

the man was hunting the fox for food? I suspect even you know that that is not why fox are hunted. If he were hunting for food, I could understand his actions.

You seem determined to castigate me, while you defend animal cruelty. You are correct that we don't know to what degree the hunter is or is not an asshole, but this discussion is revealing in other respects.

[The Doctor.]

29. My very simple point is that we *don't* know the circumstances.

I'm not 'castigating' anyone.

Perhaps he was indeed hunting the fox for the sake of food. Perhaps in a way that you have not considered yet.

I only ever hope that people I talk to at least think.

[hlthe2b]

31. And, I only ever hope that people I "talk" to...

leave their dripping condescension and patronizing attitudes off-line. Perhaps you can think about that.

[The Doctor.]

34. My 'condescension' is reserved for people that can't be bothered to consider

that which may be outside of their worldview.

In this case, I made no pronouncements, condescending or otherwise about your character. Instead I left the door open for you to choose whether you would engage in thoughtful consideration of my point, or turn and attack me instead.

No one is at the receiving end of my 'condescension' who did not somehow earn it.

Now, if you would like to consider my point and comment on its validity one way or another, I invite you to do so. If, on the other hand, you would rather make this about me, then it might be best not to comment further.

[hlthe2b]

42. Condescension is a defensive tactic

adopted by those who NEED to feel themselves superior-- as a means to compensate for feelings of inferiority. It is rude and aggressive behavior that is not conducive to any kind of civil or constructive discussion. I don't know why you feel the need, but, I do agree that with this attitude, it really is best that you not comment further.

[The Backlash Cometh]

6. You go Fox!

[Tyrs WolfDaemon]

7. It's a sign!

My Wolf and Fox brethren are prepared to overthrow humanity. This young brave Fox has shown that we are learning to use firearms!:evilgrin: Our first target will be Fox News as only Canines should be allowed to have such a named channel.

[BladesOfAiur]

20. Indeed.

Now the wolves must learn to use SAM launchers.:smoke:

[Tyrs WolfDaemon]

23. I want to see some of my brethren wolves...

strapped onto Predator Drones for aerial combat. This will give us a chance to attack those that hunt us from helicopters. :evilgrin:

[TygrBright]

8. "Accidentally" pulled the trigger with its paw? I think NOT! n/t

[gristy]

12. Reporters are always deciding and reporting if they think something is an accident

But reporters stopped just reporting the facts a long, long time ago.

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. Well now we know why hunters better up arm themselves

sneaky fox... well done fox.

[Wabbajack_]

11. Aww So cute

Fox hunting is revolting.

[AnnieBW]

14. Fox was just seeking Second Amendment Remedies

against that hunter!

[eppur_se_muova]

15. Fox responsible for gun violence ... what else is new ? nt

[flvegan]

16. Why did the "hunter" choose the butt of the rifle over a second shot?

Seems far more humane that if one is determined to "hunt" a bullet is faster.

[The Doctor.]

25. One costs $$, the other doesn't.

Blunt trauma can be just as quick if not faster.

[flvegan]

28. Ah. Needless suffering for a 50 cent savings.

Yeah, supports my opinion of hunters for the most part.

Yay, fox!

[The Doctor.]

30. That's a very American attitude you have.

"{item}?!? Why... they're a dime a dozen!"

Maybe, just maybe, this man had more difficult realities to deal with than you are willing to consider.

I'm sure you think everyone on Earth can drop 4 bits at any time to preserve their conscience. Am I wrong?

[flvegan]

32. This "hunter" was after this fox why?

Food?

Unlikely. My American attitude that you allude to, doesn't visit vanity like the person you apologize for does, methinks.

Stay with that, paints you well.

[The Doctor.]

35. That's exactly my point ; "We don't know".

Now this person is 'vain'? Really?

I'm always amazed at how much some people seem to know.


What 'paints' me is the fact that I do not rush to judgment when I am not in possession of sufficient facts.


So... why was he hunting the fox?

[walldude]

37. It only takes a bit of google... Fox hunting is a sport in Belarus

after seeing that on a number of sites I decided to see how many people eat "Fox Meat"... I found one.. He had a recipe.. here it is:

Take the fox meat

slice it into 1 inch strips
marinate in beer/ teriaki sauce, add garlic
add vegetables and cubed potatoes
take fox meat, vegetables and potatoes, place on a wooden cutting board
place in pre heated oven at 400 degrees
cook for 1 hour
remove from oven
throw away fox meat, potatoes and vegetables
eat wooden board


I'd say it's safe to assume, this guy was hunting for sport.

And he must be a lousy sportsman if he was hunting a small unarmed animal with no opposable thumbs and a brain the size of a lemon, and managed to get shot by said animal with his own gun.

I'm thinking it might be in the best interest of the people around him if they kept deadly weapons away from this genius.

[The Doctor.]

40. Now the assumptions have support.

While we still can't be sure he wasn't protecting his chickens, at least that is a piece of information that helps support the 'he's an asshole' conclusion so many decided immediately... and likely without doing any more research than a visceral query.

It is fairly plain that there are many people on DU that believe the only reason people hunt is to get a thrill-kill. I happen to know for a fact that this is not the case, and that there are many people whose modest subsistence is only sustained by hunting. Such comments as "Needless suffering for a 50 cent savings.", at the suggestion that this person may need to be careful with his resources, reveals a particular ignorance of how other people on Earth might be compelled to live.

That fox hunting in the region is 'popular' is also not enough to draw the 'asshole' conclusion. 'Popular' does not necessarily mean 'done for fun', as a people may favor a 'popular' approach to problems as well as entertainment.

So, if this is 'sport hunting', and it is not done to protect livestock or provide food, then the assumption that this person is an asshole is not without justification. It is also without anything that approaches certainty.

Is this person an 'asshole' who was just out to get a kill and collect a trophy?

Until we read the interview with him, or get some other substantiation, none of us will know.

Is he incompetent?

Yes, absolutely... he let a fox shoot him. We are in complete agreement that whatever his motives, his methods are lousy. He probably should not have nail-clippers let alone firearms.

Does the fox kick ass?

Totally, and I hope he goes on to have many kits who will become the bane of Belarus hunters for generations to come.

[flvegan]

33. *crickets* Big shock.

Your assumptions are weak, and the rest is pathetic.

[The Doctor.]

36. Wow.

I'm always amazed at how so many can invert logic to support their own self-righteousness.

That, and I don't spend every minute of my life on DU... so saying 'crickets' as though I had no response is just silly.

First of all, I'd love to hear just what 'assumptions' I've made... because I have done exactly the opposite; I've made none.

You, like many others, have already ascribed motives you cannot know to this hunter. It is you who has made 'assumptions'.

Second, I'd like to know just what I've said is 'pathetic'.

I'll give you plenty of time and not assume that failure to respond immediately somehow means you have no answer.

[earthboundmisfit]

17. Reminds me of my favorite MAD back cover (BIG pic -sorry)

(#308, Jan. 1992, this from Doug Gilford's madcoversite.com):

[tuckessee]

21. My favorite too! It's a classic.

Funny as hell...:rofl:

[walldude]

41. Ok off topic a bit but I stopped reading MAD in the early 80's

I just kind of outgrew it. When my kids hit that age, I started buying it again, and now I look forward to every single issue. They nail everyone from Beck to Palin, and they do it in every issue.
Politics have become so fucked up MAD Spends more time on it then they do on lame TV. And I couldn't be happier. It's still some of the best satire out there...

[Contrary1]

18. Must have been a Liberal. n/t

[kimi]

19. I hope the fox is okay

The so-called "hunter"?

Not so much.

[tavalon]

22. Instant karma

[guitar man]

27. I for one welcome our new Fox overlords!!

:D

[bluestate10]

38. One hunting story that hunter won't be telling over vodka. nt.

[Swamp Rat]

43. yay!!

:)