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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 01:04 AM
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Radio stations told to censor Dire Straits "Money for Nothing"
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110114/od_nm/us_canada_song_odd

Canadian radio station have been warned to censor the 1985 Dire Straits hit "Money for Nothing," after a complaint that the lyrics of the Grammy Award-winning song were derogatory to gay men.

A St. John's, Newfoundland, station should have edited the song to remove the word "faggot" because it violates Canada's human rights standards, according to ruling this week by the Canadian Broadcast Standards Council.

A unnamed listener to OZ FM in the Atlantic Coast province complained to the industry watchdog last year after hearing the song, which features Dire Straits frontman Mark Knopfler and fellow rock star Sting.

The council said it realized Dire Straits uses the word sarcastically, and its use might have been acceptable in 1985 when the best-selling "Brothers in Arms" album was released, but said it was now inappropriate.

"The decision doesn't really relate to the Dire Straits song at the end of the day, the decision relates to the word in question," Ron Cohen, the council's chairman, told the Canadian Broadcasting Corp.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 01:10 AM
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1. It's always annoying to me when song lyrics get bleeped out,
but I suppose it's fair to delete "faggot" sice they probably already delete "fuck". The bleeping kind of ruins the songs, though.
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DontTreadOnMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 01:16 AM
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2. If I was Mark Knopfler, I would re-release the song
with something comical in place of the "faggot" word... the song could have a huge comeback
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 05:24 AM
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12. Play that funky music, white boy ... eom
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Doc_Technical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 02:13 AM
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3. The local oldies station, KHIP 104.3 ,
has been censoring this song for the last 6 years
of which I'm aware by eliminating the entire stanza
that contains the offending word.
I understand the reason this was done but I have trouble
with modifying, and censoring art.
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 01:55 PM
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20. I'm guessing they don't play much rap on the radio in Canada
N-word this and N-word that
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 10:33 PM
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29. yeah they do albeit censored just like with this DS song
based on my experience traveling to/around Canada and listening to their stations and that rap is popular music that does get lots of radio airplay
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 02:27 AM
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4. Wow, they're really going to have problems going down this road.
I mean, really, they still play Dire Straits?
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 02:31 AM
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5. Especially that song.
I mean "Sultans of Swing" is almost forgivable, but "Money for Nothing"? Damn.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 03:54 AM
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7. Two great songs by one of the greatest bands ever.
Oh, did I mention that the music you enjoy sucks fucking donkey balls?

You guys think you're just too fucking hip for words, don't you? :boring:
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 04:21 AM
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8. "hip"? Heh. Is that like "cool" or "daddy-o"?
Knopfler's not bad as a musician, but Dire Straits was formula pop music, so much so that they openly mocked themselves for doing it (in the OP song in question, no less).

The music I enjoy doesn't *just* suck donkey balls, it rips them off the donkey, throws it in the audience, and then sprays them with blood from the injured donkey, while challenging views on gratuitous animal abuse... or, as us "hip" (lol) cats call it, "art".

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xb0jb_skinny-puppy-worlock_music
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 05:08 AM
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10. Yeah, yeah whatever.
Your stuff rules, mine sucks.

Saw Dire Straits many times. The audience was always every bit as clueless as I. We thought they totally rocked the fucking house, and many of them were not old beatniks like me.

Perhaps it's subjective. Jeez, I don't know...it's all so confusing. :smoke:
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 05:27 AM
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13. The video where Knopfler reworks the riffs in Sultans of Swing is truly amazing
It used to show up on MTV.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 05:32 AM
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14. As a way of explanation...
I came of age as non-corporate music started happening on a large scale, while, at the same time, corporate music reached its peak. Pop acts filled stadiums, non-pop filled a coffeehouse, but was taped/copied like mad, and later, digitized.

If Dire Straits started today, I think they'd be an iTunes/MP3 band, not a label band, and the music would be much, much, better.

Of course, right now, artists have both options... which is kind of cool.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 06:29 AM
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18. I came of age watching bands like Hendrix, the Who, Jethro Tull...
....playing in acoustically flawless small venues that usually hosted the local symphony orchestra. They weren't sponsored by Bud Light either. Yeah, I'm a 1st wave hippie.

IMO, there is nothing that can compare to Ian Anderson and Jethro Tull's live shows in the 60s and 70s. Of course the acid helped, but I saw them many times later, not tripping, but certainly not straight. I still go to see Ian if he's within 100 miles of me, and he never fails to disappoint. One of the greatest showmen ever!

Kind of got off topic, but I'm getting senile, I guess.

I love Lady GaGa too. I can't figure out why. I should hate that stuff, but she fucking rules. :P
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 08:23 AM
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19. 40 years ago....
That being said, GaGa gamed, and won. She released pop, and music, at the same time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CUYvWTd6oA
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 02:19 PM
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22. Knopfler's not bad as a musician
See this is where you lose all credibility. You are in such a hurry to "label" old music that it shows your lack of knowledge. Knopfler while granted, made some Pop music, also played jazz, country, bluegrass, blues... He did duets with some of the greatest players who ever lived, he is loved by many musicians, and when I had a conversation with Les Paul about his favorite players, Knopfler was one of his top 5.

So let's see, the man who invented the Electric Guitar and Multi-Track recording thinks Knopfler is one of the 5 best ever, and you call him "not bad" and a few posts down espouse the thing called Lady Gaga. Famous for crappy pop music and a meat dress.

Lady Gaga is "ART" and Knopfler is "not bad"... Yeah.. right.
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 08:01 PM
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27. I'm blown away that someone is killing Mark Knopfler.....
....and yammering on about their brilliant taste in music.....ponderous.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 08:30 PM
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28. Dude, don't be puttin' down my GaGa.
Try turning it up louder or something. }(
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 05:36 AM
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15. You must have really loved "Twistin' by the Pool"...
:hi:

Sid
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Ex Lurker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 04:22 AM
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9. Knopfler is one of the greatest guitarists of all time
as I recall, there was some controversy upon its original release, prompting an alternate version shortly after.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 02:35 AM
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6. Blame Canada
I haven't heard the offending portion in many years. I hear the song all the time on KBCO.

Per Wikipedia:

When the song is included in rotation as part of a music feed played in stores or restaurants, "faggot" is usually edited. The entire second verse was edited out, for shortened length and to remove objectionable content, for radio and video airplay. This edited version, as on the 7" vinyl single, is the one included in the compilation albums Sultans of Swing: The Very Best of Dire Straits and Money for Nothing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_for_Nothing_(song)#Controversy
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social_critic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 05:21 AM
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11. 1984
It's the beginning of 1984, my friends. Big Brother wants to control EVERYTHING. And they want to do it via grammar and the use of words. Am I being sarcastic?
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 05:37 AM
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16. OK, Jared...nt
Sid
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 05:38 AM
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17. 1984 began in 1984....
when my Mother wouldn't let us listen to a few songs with "questionable" lyrics.

Lighten up Francis.....
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 02:07 PM
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21. The radio has been censored for decades, so how is this the beginning of 1984?
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 02:26 PM
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23. Wait a minute! What about "What's that? Hawaiian noises?"
Isn't that offensive to First Nations (indigenous) people? :P
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 07:43 PM
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24. Only when they're "banging on the bongos like a chimpanzee."
You see, "that ain't working".... clearly insinuating that first nations peoples are lower primates, taking advantage of pop cultures to escape poverty.

:P
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 07:52 PM
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25. "I shoulda learned to play the guitar" (obviously it's a CHARACTER's words, not Knopfler)
It's like wanting to ban All In The Family because Archie Bunker was such a bigot. That's kinda THE POINT of the show, and of that song.

The CHARACTER in the song is a manual laborer, and a homophobe, and unappreciative of the arts and what it takes to be good at it.

That's why it's a good song.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 11:28 PM
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30. You nailed it with the Archie Bunker comparison.
It is exactly the same. Censoring this kind of stuff is PC at it's very worst.

Fucking idiots!
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-11 07:56 PM
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26. They must be playing the album version
The single that was a hit edited out that part along with the extended Sting open.
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